Kewl, got my CCL!

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ExpeditionAndy

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Habbibie, congratulations on your CCL. I have my Indiana CHL and also have the Utah Non-resident permit. I but it mainly because Ohio originally didn't recognize Indiana's license. Now they do. I carry appendix in the waistband and find it comfortable. Drove for 8 hours today with it without a problem.
 

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Yea I think I need a more appropriate pistol to store in the car, the one I got is a little too big too over powered to make sense, also something that I can actually use at the range to practice, any recommendations? Thinking a glock or 1911... somewhere in that ball park, has to be semi auto no revolvers $500~$800. Guns are not my field of expertise but every recommendation I'll research thoroughly.

Currently I have, or had for a while a desert eagle 50, yes I know not the best first gun to own but it was a gift from my former employer. Hallow tips I believe 320 grit bullets in it can't remember on top of my head but the two gun ranges by me won't allow .50 cal weapons and I don't want to change the bolt size to .357 it's still too big to be concealed and appropriate for quick draw

I carry a Taurus PT140 and sometimes a PT111. It's cheap and shoots straight, and if I shoot someone, my gun will be confiscated. I would rather not have my Colt 1911 sitting in an evidence locker for a year or more. As far as ammo goes....well....I know for a fact that if you shoot someone at close range ( preferably 2 to the chest and 1 to the head, that's how you should train ) with a low grain, plain jane, 9mm ball they ain't getting back up. Training training training
 

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Yea I think I need a more appropriate pistol to store in the car, the one I got is a little too big too over powered to make sense, also something that I can actually use at the range to practice, any recommendations? Thinking a glock or 1911... somewhere in that ball park, has to be semi auto no revolvers $500~$800. Guns are not my field of expertise but every recommendation I'll research thoroughly.

Currently I have, or had for a while a desert eagle 50, yes I know not the best first gun to own but it was a gift from my former employer. Hallow tips I believe 320 grit bullets in it can't remember on top of my head but the two gun ranges by me won't allow .50 cal weapons and I don't want to change the bolt size to .357 it's still too big to be concealed and appropriate for quick draw
I carry a glock G19 (9mm) most of the time, I like the double stack compact design. I have others and I switch off depending on where I'm going and what I'm wearing. Years ago the first gun I bought was a S&W 357 magnum. It was too big for concealed carry but it was a nice shooting gun. Later I sold the .357 and bought a S&W .41 magnum (because I couldn't get a .44 magnum). That was a cannon and impractical to carry with it's 8-3/8" barrel. Then I bought a Walther PPKS (.380) is was nice and concealable but heavy as hell to carry. I had it for 35 years but it was stolen a couple of years ago when we moved.

I've standardized on Glock now and I train with them.
 

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I have carried several pistols as issued weapons. Being 'forced' to carry a specific firearm makes you concentrate on the negatives of that pistol and "hate" them.
But, I would carry any of them as EDC. The point is find what works for YOU. That's the biggest issue with female shooters; everyone tells them what to carry and they concentrate on what they don't like about the weapon and use it as an excuse to not carry it.

Go find a big gun store. Walk the counter and ask to finger ***** every single pistol you can get your hands on. Identify what you like and what you don't. Ask politely if someone can remove the trigger safety (most places will remove the slide/barrel assembly then remove the trigger lock) so you can try the trigger. Once you find a couple you like, find a friend or a range that has them for "rent" and put some rounds through them.

I honestly don't give a ***** about what round is best for self defense. You need to carry what you are comfortable with and what you can control. I carry .380, 9mm, 38/.357 and .45; situation dictates. I prefer 9mm as it typically gives you more rounds for the weapon. Lets be realistic; there is almost ZERO chance you are putting the first round on target in a self defense situation. That adrenaline rush and shock factor guarantees it. This is just another reason to train, train, train. Average 9mm compact carries 15rds (some more, some less). So that's 15 opportunities to persuade the aggressor to change their mind. Everyone's answer is "carry more mags!!" But how many people practice speed reloads/mag changes? How many people train to cound rds to know when they are about to run dry? How many train to take cover to conduct mag changes?

Realistic, honest real world based training will make you proficient with any firearm you choose to carry. Except a Desert Eagle. No one ever becomes expedient with a Deagle. :)
 

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Fair enough. I usually leave mine on my hip so that I can draw and unbuckle at the same time, and the retention on it is strong enough that my buddy was able to pick me up by the pistol.

And I'm curious your opinion on shoulder holsters... I don't like sweeping a 180 arc on the draw, especially when that includes my off-hand bicep, but I generally like them.

That's my biggest issue with shoulder holsters: flagging everyone. Nothing makes you feel more at home than standing behind someone in line at the supermarket and they are open carrying a .44 mag in a shoulder holster and you are staring down the barrel. Most don't draw properly and make the situation even worse. The down pointing sh are ok I guess but still slow to draw and present. Again, to each their own.

I utilized a chest rig for some of our work especially when knowing we were going in and out of vics. Once again, the situation dictates.
 

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Yea I think I need a more appropriate pistol to store in the car, the one I got is a little too big too over powered to make sense, also something that I can actually use at the range to practice, any recommendations? Thinking a glock or 1911... somewhere in that ball park, has to be semi auto no revolvers $500~$800. Guns are not my field of expertise but every recommendation I'll research thoroughly.

Currently I have, or had for a while a desert eagle 50, yes I know not the best first gun to own but it was a gift from my former employer. Hallow tips I believe 320 grit bullets in it can't remember on top of my head but the two gun ranges by me won't allow .50 cal weapons and I don't want to change the bolt size to .357 it's still too big to be concealed and appropriate for quick draw

Glock 23 (.40) is a great EDC weapon. Compact with power. When you carry concealed, its small enough to go unnoticed. I wear mine IWB in the small of my back, with a shirt draped over. In the car, its small enough to put virtually anywhere and still be readily accessible.
 

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Good read:

http://concealednation.org/2014/10/...d-have-tons-of-science-behind-their-decision/

Albeit I don't 100% agree with everything stated in the article, there is some good info referenced. Just reinforces to carry what you are comfortable with.

(I personally despise .40 cal. My personal opinion is that it is an over hyped round originally designed to fill the 'gap' between 9mm and .45 and replace the venerable 10mm. It is mediocre at best and was maxed out during seign and at inception to provide the performance that was desired. Just my OPINION, and opinions are like ********.....)
 

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That's my biggest issue with shoulder holsters: flagging everyone. Nothing makes you feel more at home than standing behind someone in line at the supermarket and they are open carrying a .44 mag in a shoulder holster and you are staring down the barrel. Most don't draw properly and make the situation even worse. The down pointing sh are ok I guess but still slow to draw and present. Again, to each their own.

I utilized a chest rig for some of our work especially when knowing we were going in and out of vics. Once again, the situation dictates.

Wait... people open carry with shoulder holsters? I've never seen that. I've only ever had mine under a suit jacket. It does point straight back, but it's for my P99... It draws pretty well, for being a generic-fit holster.

I'd want straight down for my revolver, cuz there's no way a 6" barrel is hiding under my armpit.
 

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Wait... people open carry with shoulder holsters? I've never seen that. I've only ever had mine under a suit jacket. It does point straight back, but it's for my P99... It draws pretty well, for being a generic-fit holster.

I'd want straight down for my revolver, cuz there's no way a 6" barrel is hiding under my armpit.


I live in a lawful open carry state (no CC permit required for open carry). You would not believe the ridiculous stupidity I see every single time I go to WalMart. 12" bbl .44 mag stuck in a back pocket of overalls with a hole in the bottom of the pocket? Yup, seen it. M&P .22 in a Cowboy Action western revolver holster? More common than you think.
 
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