New owner of a expedition NEED HELP!!!

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Marcy

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I'm losing my mind...
I bought a 2000 expedition n love it... kids are not screaming around n crying about so n so is touching me. God forbid... n I want to keep it that way. Lol
Well I had a tune up done on it n the dude said I needed to get a coil thingy. #3 was bad. So I did that. I bought 1 n had to replace it myself. Which was easy. I YouTube it. Lol.
Well same same. I'm on the 6th coil thingy n it still running rough.....
PLEASE HELP
Auto zone said to bring it to them when my eng. Light came on BUT it never has.
 

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There are several Auto Parts stores that will check codes for free because they want to sell you parts of course. And of course those parts are cheaper then the dealer, but many parts are WAY cheaper from other sources such as COPs from Ebay or Amazon. A COP from a dealership can be over $100 for one, $45 to $75 from a parts store, and as low as $4 for a better then OEM when bought on Amazon in sets of 8 or 10 (and if you are a Prime Member you can get them in one day). I just bought 10 for less then the price of one from NAPA.

Also the Check Engine Light does not necessarily have to be on for a Code to have been thrown and recorded. It could be missing bad enough to throw a Code but not bad enough to force a Check Engine Soon light. Since you are a woman you have an advantage, so if I were you I would drop by the parts store that offered to check it when they are not busy and they might take the time. Another option is to drop by a Harbor Freight and buy an OBD Code Reader (with a 20% off coupon they are as low as $40) or buy one from Amazon, or if you are a bit more technical buy a OBD BlueTooth Dongle that can talk to a laptop or Android device then install the Torque App.

You can also try to force a Code to cause a Check Engine Soon light by driving in a more aggressive stressful condition such as finding a steep hill and from a standing start at the bottom flooring it until it knocks, let up completely coasting, then floorboard it again. Driving conditions that are more stressful need optimum engine conditions and if a COP isn't up to that, it will most likely at least throw a Code or even cause a Check Engine Soon light. I used the steep hill down by the river late in the evening making it knock but it did not produce a CES light, so when I put the OBD on it when I returned home, I had a P0306 fault registered (Misfire on Cylinder #6).

I had another problem that would not throw a Code to save my life and I was about to shotgun all the COPS and Plugs then the boss called saying he need the COW (Carrier On Wheels) moved. I was driving my truck and didn't feel like going home to get the company truck. The first 4 degree grade I came to pulling the trailer from a 4 way stop caused the Check Engine Soon light to come on. COPs #2 and #5 were bad.

If you drive lots of miles, its a good idea to own an OBD, keep the tools to change COPs and Plugs in the truck along with 2 plugs already gaped and 2 COPS (I keep 4 and 4). Of course I hate limping home but also plan to keep this 2003 EB until either it or I die.
 

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These COPs are changed way more often than needed. They rarely ever fail, but people replace them and the problem goes away, so they figure that was the failure. The reason for this is that the coils usually come with new coil connectors, or boots, and that is most often the actual problem. They get old and cracked, and it causes the spark to ground out, instead of firing the plug. I found this out when I replaced the plugs on mine at 190k; it ran worse than before, because I disturbed the boots! So, unless it's already been done, you should replace all 8 coil connectors. A set is usually cheaper than one COP. It fixed mine, and the coils never needed replacement. I've now got about 240k. And even though your engine light isn't on, there is probably at least one misfire code stored in the ECM. Hope this helps!
 

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There are several Auto Parts stores that will check codes for free because they want to sell you parts of course. And of course those parts are cheaper then the dealer, but many parts are WAY cheaper from other sources such as COPs from Ebay or Amazon. A COP from a dealership can be over $100 for one, $45 to $75 from a parts store, and as low as $4 for a better then OEM when bought on Amazon in sets of 8 or 10 (and if you are a Prime Member you can get them in one day). I just bought 10 for less then the price of one from NAPA.

Also the Check Engine Light does not necessarily have to be on for a Code to have been thrown and recorded. It could be missing bad enough to throw a Code but not bad enough to force a Check Engine Soon light. Since you are a woman you have an advantage, so if I were you I would drop by the parts store that offered to check it when they are not busy and they might take the time. Another option is to drop by a Harbor Freight and buy an OBD Code Reader (with a 20% off coupon they are as low as $40) or buy one from Amazon, or if you are a bit more technical buy a OBD BlueTooth Dongle that can talk to a laptop or Android device then install the Torque App.

You can also try to force a Code to cause a Check Engine Soon light by driving in a more aggressive stressful condition such as finding a steep hill and from a standing start at the bottom flooring it until it knocks, let up completely coasting, then floorboard it again. Driving conditions that are more stressful need optimum engine conditions and if a COP isn't up to that, it will most likely at least throw a Code or even cause a Check Engine Soon light. I used the steep hill down by the river late in the evening making it knock but it did not produce a CES light, so when I put the OBD on it when I returned home, I had a P0306 fault registered (Misfire on Cylinder #6).

I had another problem that would not throw a Code to save my life and I was about to shotgun all the COPS and Plugs then the boss called saying he need the COW (Carrier On Wheels) moved. I was driving my truck and didn't feel like going home to get the company truck. The first 4 degree grade I came to pulling the trailer from a 4 way stop caused the Check Engine Soon light to come on. COPs #2 and #5 were bad.

If you drive lots of miles, its a good idea to own an OBD, keep the tools to change COPs and Plugs in the truck along with 2 plugs already gaped and 2 COPS (I keep 4 and 4). Of course I hate limping home but also plan to keep this 2003 EB until either it or I die.

Do you have a link for the COP's you purchased from Amazon?
 

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I assume your car was running rough after your "tuneup" and the mechanic blamed the #3 COP? After replacing 6 COPS I would suspect something else is causing your problem. Vacuum/PCV leaks are common in older Expeditions. Take it to another mechanic to diagnose.

In the mean time, try adding a bottle of Techron Complete Fuel System Cleaner to your gas tank. Our Expedition seems to run better after I started using it to reduce "pinging".

On a side note, we've had our Expedition for 17yrs and it has NEVER thrown a CEL. While our Audi seems to throw a CEL every few months <shrug>.
 

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Do you have a link for the COP's you purchased from Amazon?

Hello Mike

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00VWZC2VM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1

Make sure that you check two things. Input your Make, Model, Year, and Engine. Second, double check that the COP listed for your MMYE is the correct one before clicking purchase. Additionally, if you don't have dielectric silicone (for the COPS) and anti-seize (if changing plugs), they also have that for cheap also.
 

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So this sounds familiar....long story short; I had a very small coolant leak from my manifold that was dripping into one of my valve covers.

The water would build up, start random archs and I'd replace the coil....did this 5 times.

I'd replace the boot as well because the unwanted discharge would put tiny pinholes in it.

Finally swapped my manifold and haven't had an issue going on 7 months now.

Good luck! :smile:
 
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