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Can you tell me where you saw that 2017 so I can go buy it before you can get your filthy mitts all over it? ;)

Seriously, that's a good deal. I'd take it in a heartbeat.

He's not kidding. I just paid $34K for a 2017 EL XLT that was a rental or fleet car with 29,000 miles on it.

I have always used sun/moon roofs with zero issues. I just traded in an 07 sequoia that had zero problems with it. I did have some water issues during heavy rain on my 1992 Camaro with T-tops. LOL
 

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They're not windows.....they're air brakes.

I'm afraid of running with them open; I watched the drivers side one day in the outside mirror and it was bowing in and out way too much for me.

I usually leave mine open all the time...6hrs trips running 80...8 years never had an issue...I do occasionally oil them...the are usually open when it rains most of the time...lol
 

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I'm a bit late to see and respond to this thread, but I'll add my two cents. First off, where do you live? I live in Wenatchee, in case you are nearby and want to meet up. I bought a 2016 xlt in May of 2017, a rental fleet unit with about 32k miles at the time, and the expy is now at 86k miles, as I'm putting on almost 5k miles per month.
My experience:
  • I moved from an f350 diesel crew cab, and the expy is not as roomy in the front row as the truck was, but it's still comfortable enough for me.
  • I regularly haul adults in all three rows and people are always surprised how comfortable the third row is. Fwiw, I've had owners of new escalades ride with me and tell me they prefer my rig to theirs.
  • We tow a 30' trailer (7200 pounds dry) with the expy and are very happy. I expected to be disappointed in the ecoboost, but it has amazing torque. I've towed the trailer up over Steven's pass and there's ample power, and I only need to slow down for curves in the road, not inclines.
  • Fuel economy can be surprisingly good, except when towing, when it's worse than the diesel. We've averaged between 9 & 11 mpg towing the trailer, which includes over the passes, so in retrospect not so bad. But with rising fuel prices , you do feel it at the pump.
  • You will need towing mirrors, as the stock mirrors on my xlt don't give enough view.
  • My expy came with the moonroof, which is nice to have but i rarely use it.
  • The vehicle has been very reliable so far. I get it serviced regularly (and often, given the miles I drive), and the only thing I've had to replace is the battery.
I'd be happy to answer any questions you have. Good luck in the search.
 
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Thanks, I'm still trying to find the right one for us. In the 33-35k range there are many loaded XLT ELs with leather and heated cooled seats with heavy tow package, all with less than 36k miles. All are Ford CPO as well so that would give peace of mind with the ecoboost. My trailer is 6200 GVWR and 29ft bumper to tongue, an ultra light but thr fresh tank is in front of the axle and we often tow with it full. That worries me with the sagging suspension of the expedition but I think with a better WDH it would all work out.

Most all of my towing is in the mountains so the ecoboost would surely be nice, although I don't have any real complaints with my 5.4 and tow gears.
 

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What you are seeing on the market is exactly what we got in terms of mileage and equipment. Now I see in your signature that you're in Idaho, and we got our Expy from Corwin in Nampa. You won't be disappointed in the vehicle you choose. However, definitely use a WDH. Good luck!
 

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Also as a side note, by the numbers the suburban is actually longer than an EL, but the reverse is true of just looking at them side by side. I think the expedition feels bigger inside as well, and wish I could get by with a short wheelbase model strictly for parking lot manuvers and parking garages....

The interiors are nearly identical in size; I measured both 3 years ago when I was shopping for an SUV. The EL is ~99" inside from the back of the drivers seat to the rear hatch. If I remember correctly, the standard length (SL) is about 85" inside. All of the room you lose will be behind the 3rd row. FWIW, there is a minor handling difference when moseying alone, but if you are a spirited driver the difference in how the EL handles vs the SL is significant. As for parking it depends on where you're parking. The standard length space in the US is 18' so the EL often runs into other spaces in the city and suburbs. Out in more rural areas, however, the spaces tend to be longer as they know more people drive trucks. I've rarely encountered a spot where I couldn't maneuver/park with an EL where an SL would have made a difference.
 

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Thanks, I'm still trying to find the right one for us. In the 33-35k range there are many loaded XLT ELs with leather and heated cooled seats with heavy tow package, all with less than 36k miles. All are Ford CPO as well so that would give peace of mind with the ecoboost. My trailer is 6200 GVWR and 29ft bumper to tongue, an ultra light but thr fresh tank is in front of the axle and we often tow with it full. That worries me with the sagging suspension of the expedition but I think with a better WDH it would all work out.

Most all of my towing is in the mountains so the ecoboost would surely be nice, although I don't have any real complaints with my 5.4 and tow gears.


Do you do a lot of boondocking (dry camping)?

Find an Expedition with the load leveling shocks and you wont have to worry about the sagging
 
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What you are seeing on the market is exactly what we got in terms of mileage and equipment. Now I see in your signature that you're in Idaho, and we got our Expy from Corwin in Nampa. You won't be disappointed in the vehicle you choose. However, definitely use a WDH. Good luck!

I like Corwin but their prices are usually $1k higher than Lithia in Boise for the same vehicle. I bought my truck from Corwin, maybe they'd do better on the trade to balance it out, but they are on that no haggle price structure and won't budge on their listed prices. It doesn't appear that traveling out of state gets me a better deal on these either.

I've not driven the ecoboost version, I have to do that first and see if it's worth it over saving some coin on a 14 with the 5.4. It's looking to be a $5k difference in price between a 2014 limited and a similarly equipped loaded 17 Xlt (minus the power boards, power fold mirrors and front park sensors).
 

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Find an Expedition with the load leveling shocks and you wont have to worry about the sagging
Load leveling just disguises an out of balance trailer setup. A properly set WDH will result in level towing where by both suspensions depress equally. Load leveling just cranks up the rear so it looks level but not an ounce is removed from the rear axle and distributed to the front axle (and back to the trailer axles).

Great for a load of bricks or your porcine friends in the cargo area. But doesn't remove an once of weight in this case either.

Set the WDH with this turned off and you'll be fine. It can take out the last 1/4 inch when hooked up to the trailer.

-- Chuck
 

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