Don’t let your passenger put their feet on the dash. Unless you have an extra $2500 laying around!!

star-art · May 22, 2018

This sounds like utter horse pucky. The dash shell is indeed one piece but it does not include the airbag or airbag cover. The attached diagram shows how it's laid out. They list only two part #s for the dash shell (w/ and w/o 8-inch display). I'm guessing they all come with an Ebony top regardless of interior color.

I know there's two different versions of the dash top though as 2015-17 trucks that *don't* come with Premium Sound have a molded-in tray top center while trucks *with* Premium Sound have a separate center channel speaker cut into that tray.

Black · May 22, 2018

Well this will be interesting according to the diagram you posted #9 appears to be a completely separate cover which I specifically asked about when I was told the whole dash pad had to be replaced.
Do you have the full diagram that lists #9 and the part number????

Also is the whole dashpad different between premium and no premium sound or does the organizer tray (I have) and the center speaker just use the same clip location and fit the opening?

Sure is going to be interesting when the part come in. I have been waiting 2 weeks for the part and am going to be pissed if they ordered wrong and actually need #9 and have to wait for it arrive.

Big Brian · May 22, 2018

I have been trying to tell you its separate. I used to work at Ford Motor Company building prototype vehicles for 13 years. 5 of those years I prepped cars for the crash barrier.

The airbags have always been a separate assembly. Just like in the diagram

I could see it being 2 hours labor, what they are charging you is insane

Black · May 22, 2018

It appears that in 2015 they have stopped using a separate cover for the airbag from the rest of the dash pad.

If you search for #9 and have your Expedition listed as a 2016 there is no indication of part #9 except in the diagram.

If you search for #9 and have your Expedition listed as a 2014 you then have 3 options for #9
Charcoal, Stone, Camel.
Part# 7L1Z-7804338-CC
https://www.oemfordpartsdirect.com/oem-parts/ford-upper-panel-7l1z7804338cc?c=Zz1ib2R5JnM9aW5zdHJ1bWVudC1wYW5lbCZhPWZvcmQmbz1leHBlZGl0aW9uJnk9MjAxNCZ0PWVsLXhsdCZlPTUtNGwtdjgtZmxleA==

If you directly search for #9 part number with 2016 listed as your year it states it does not fit.

If you directly search for #6 the with 2014 listed the part does not fit.

The large dash panel part number is also different by the first digit.
2014 starts with 7 and 2016 starts with F

So I guess we will find out for sure when the part arrives.

1955moose · May 22, 2018

Depends how hot the woman is! I don't know about you guys, but if I've got a gorgeous 5'10 brunette sitting along side me, and she wants to take her shoes off, to air out those beautiful size 9 feet on a hot day, I don't think I'd say no! Not if I want to get lucky later. Now the wife, well that's another story. Probably don't want to get lucky there, so politely say honey, your feet there is gonna cost us $2 grand!

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Trainmaster · May 22, 2018

Brian, this is completely off-topic but that sounds like it was one heck of an interesting job! You must have some stories about that one...

Big Brian · May 22, 2018

I suppose they could be right but would really be surprised if that is the case

Yeah Eddie it was a great job until they closed the dept and sent all the work to Rousch. I was offered a job there but I refuse to work for them (long story)

I have TONS of stories of my time there. Most people have no idea how much goes into developing and testing vehicles

star-art · May 23, 2018

Black said:
It appears that in 2015 they have stopped using a separate cover for the airbag from the rest of the dash pad...

So much for that theory (see attached).

Of course, I could be wrong. I don't claim to be a Ford parts expert. It just makes *no* sense whatsoever for Ford to integrate the passenger side airbag cover into the dash pad. These airbags have always been separate modules. Making a customer replace the entire dash just because an airbag deployed would royally piss off so many owners that Ford would have a PR nightmare on their hands. (And, if this turns out to be true, they deserve it -- plus a class-action lawsuit!)

In the distant past, I believe (IIRC) that the cover may have been a separate part in some vehicles. In that case, the dashboards would've had a door that opened when the bag inflated. But, as far as I know, today nearly every vehicle has the cover integrated into the airbag assembly.

star-art · May 23, 2018

The reason you couldn't find the passenger airbag part numbers listed in the first diagram is because Ford has changed the parts catalog organization for 2015-17. Instead of listing the airbag in the Instrument Panel section, it is now under Electrical=>Airbag Components. That makes it a bit more confusing to find some stuff, but that's what they did. . .

Black · May 23, 2018

The 2014 has the separate cover panel.

Don’t get it twisted I agree with you all that there is no way one should have to replace the whole dash.
I have brought it up with the service manager and parts guy on multiple occasions.
They are adiment this is the case. I have given the part number they provided me and the full cost break down.
This is straight from the Ford Service Manager they even double checked after I questioned it.

So I guess we’ll know for sure next Wednesday. My appointment is Tuesday but say they need it for 2 days.
I have also requested to keep the old part so we’ll have a better idea on construction.

The cost I really don’t care as I am not paying for it.
I will be pissed if I drop it off and once they get it all torn down realize their mistake even after I questioned it in the first place.
Then they don’t have the part they have to put it back together and I have to bring it back and jack with my schedule again.

Don’t let your passenger put their feet on the dash. Unless you have an extra $2500 laying around!!

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