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    How many miles on your 2nd Gen Ford Expedition?

    2003 EB, 4.6, 2wd with 294K. Best vehicle I’ve ever owned, she was my everyday vehicle until July 2020. She’s semi retired now, but still looks and drives great. I keep my vehicles well maintained and she’s never let me down.
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    REPLACE WHOLE A/C ASSEMBLY

    I replaced everything "under" the hood on my 2003 about 4 years ago. Did not change out evaps or line to rear unit, but I did flush. I don't remember exact cost, but somewhere around 1000. Compressor was about 40-45% of cost. Used named brands die parts. Not to difficult, biggest challenge was...
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    A/C compressor won't kick on

    I don't remember the exact amount of PAG oil, but I used the amount listed on some Ford website for the vehicle. It's possible there is air in there somewhere, I try to vent before filling, but whether or not I'm doing it correctly I don't know. I'm just about where you are, too many variables...
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    A/C compressor won't kick on

    Thank you all for your replies. I've been out of town and just now getting back to the car. It may have just been a coincidence that the compressor kicked on when i was adding the freon, not sure. Today, after sitting the w/e the compressor kicked on for about 2 secs, went off, came back on a...
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    A/C compressor won't kick on

    OK ole great ones of the board, need help to begin search. Compressor will not kick on unless I add freon. When it's running numbers look good and cold air at the vent. However when I disconnect gauges, turn off engine, it won't come back on So, where do I start this journey?
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    Strong Fuel Smell after Refueling

    I worry about you guys sometimes. Ok, let me explain this differently. We are only mentioning filling up as a data point that the smell is most noticeable with the tank full. Just like someone might say, I hear a grinding noise when hitting a bump. Got it? The smell can last for days after the...
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    Strong Fuel Smell after Refueling

    Hi, I have the same issue with fumes after refilling. I don't overdo fill up either. Like you, I've done a cursory look, but no wet spots. I thought the fill neck was leaking, but no visible signs there either. Smell appears to be in the gas cap to drivers door area. I've never noticed inside...
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    2003 Exp EB key did not turn off car

    Alright got the toggle switch installed and works just fine.
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    2003 Exp EB key did not turn off car

    Hello, thought it was time for an update. I rec'd the fuse link yesterday, waiting on the kill switch to arrive. I'm hoping it will come in today or tomorrow so i can get it installed. Question - right now I still have all the push pins in the wires that we were testing. Is it ok to leave those...
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    2003 Exp EB key did not turn off car

    Ok, I'll get one. What else do I need? General question, based on what you know at this point. I'm trying to determine if the car is "dependable" or not. Are we in a "it will get worse phase or do you think it's good to go"?
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    2003 Exp EB key did not turn off car

    The wife has the car at the moment, but here is a pix of the CJB. F1.24 controls the battery saver relay, glove box and under hood lights.
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    2003 Exp EB key did not turn off car

    It looks more like this - There is not a whole lot of room on the row where F1.18 is located. Without trying one, it's hard to say. F1.24 does have plenty of room if that is an option.
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    2003 Exp EB key did not turn off car

    Good deal. When you get time a diagram would be nice. No great hurry, it's doing ok with the fuse out. And to be honest with you I need a break from that vehicle!
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    2003 Exp EB key did not turn off car

    Did you check your gmail acct today?
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    2003 Exp EB key did not turn off car

    1. So I would toggle the switch to shut off engine and toggle to restart? 2. Right now I have F1.F24 out, car starts/stops fine. The only items not working (that I know of) are - Battery saver relay (wherever it's located) Glove box light Under hood light 3. One thing I don't understand (well...
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    2003 Exp EB key did not turn off car

    so when you say a switch, is this a physical switch like a light switch or something electronically that would take care of the problem?
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    2003 Exp EB key did not turn off car

    I had to remove F18 to get it to go into the test mode. I put F18 back in once it went into test. I was able to step thru all the tests, all the ones that i could "see" appeared to work. Lots of of Hexadecimal and port data displayed. How do I install a switch to kill F18 power?
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    2003 Exp EB key did not turn off car

    Results of second test confirm first. Doors shut. With F18 in no volts between F24 and pin 10 c270e. With F18 in and 25 minutes elapsed, 9.45 volts between the two. Electric windows still working as well.
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    2003 Exp EB key did not turn off car

    Give me both options please. And list any downsides with bandaid approach. I'm making the assumption the "right way" is a new cluster and a 750-1000 hole in my pocket. If that is an incorrect assumption please correct.
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    2003 Exp EB key did not turn off car

    I do not have the tool, but have no problem getting one. I'll rerun the last 2 tests again a little later, just to validate the numbers.
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    2003 Exp EB key did not turn off car

    Yes, I waited over 15 minutes with F18 installed. I also noticed the electric windows still worked as well. Without F18, the windows didnt work for long after the door shut. So what is next step sir?
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    2003 Exp EB key did not turn off car

    With F18 out, no voltage With F18 in, voltage. Is the relay serviceable or does it mean a new instrument panel?
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    2003 Exp EB key did not turn off car

    Not sure what you mean by set your meter to DC volts. I thought everything we've done was DC volts. Look at my meter pix and let me know what I change. Also is this both F18 in and out?
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    2003 Exp EB key did not turn off car

    Doors shut. After 15 minutes with and without F1.18 pin 15 stays hot
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    2003 Exp EB key did not turn off car

    I was reading about the Battery Saver Relay on a thread by Bed ------------------------------------------------------------------ Fuse/Relay Location Fuse Amp Rating Passenger Compartment Fuse Panel Description R301 Trailer tow back-up lamp relay Trailer tow 7–wire connector (back-up lamps)...

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