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  1. shane_th_ee

    The 4th Gen is too Expensive... or maybe not?

    TFL truck has a post up with the 1Q sales numbers for full size SUVs. Apparently, 2019 Q1 Expedition sales are up 61% compared to last year; enough to make a large dent in GM's full size SUV sales. Personally, I think the really interesting thing is that Expedition sales are up more than all...
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    Road Trip Review

    Instead of flying to visit family over the holidays, we decided to drive and take our 22'/~6000lb travel trailer. We left on December 15 and drove from Seattle to Austin via I-5 and I-10 and then up to rural OK (between Ada and McAlester). Came home pretty much the same way, except I flew back...
  3. shane_th_ee

    How Often Are You Towing?

    And, yes, we are religious about de-selecting the active trailer when unhitching. I had to reset the trailer odometer after learning that lesson. So the trailer really has a couple hundred miles not shown here...
  4. shane_th_ee

    Hey, wait a minute! Did Ford Change the Blue Color

    Did Ford update the "blue" color option at some point? I thought the photos in the below article were just a case of HDR gone wild. But then I wanted to see what the various colors would look like with the blackout package and the build-and-price shows a brighter blue. And when I search on...
  5. shane_th_ee

    First Trip!

    Just got back from our first trip out with the new truck and new-to-us trailer. No issues with truck or trailer, other than being just a few pounds under the rear axle weight rating. Truck does suck down the gas trying to accelerate while going up the pass; not too bad a constant speed...
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    Not-So-Shiny New Truck Pics

    These are trucks after all, so we need a thread for pictures of them once they get dirty/dusty/muddy. I'll start:
  7. shane_th_ee

    Service Bulletin Search?

    Anybody on here know how to find service bulletins for the 4th Gen Expedition?
  8. shane_th_ee

    New Expedition Buyer or Repeat Buyer

    I'm starting to suspect that a rather high percentage of Gen 4 Expedition buyers are actually folks who were not even considering a Gen 3 Expedition. So I'm curious: if you bought (or are still very much considering buying) a 2018, were you previously considering/cross shopping the 2017s or...
  9. shane_th_ee

    I don't own one, but my car is better:

    I thought we should have a dedicated thread for people (particularly Gen 2 and 3 Expedition owners) to tell everyone why the Gen 4 Expeditions/Navigators are crap compared to their far superior vehicles. Bonus points will be awarded for disparaging remarks regarding people who actually do...
  10. shane_th_ee

    3.73 Rear Axle Delays/Limited Availability?

    So two weeks after putting down a deposit, my dealer called yesterday to inform me that Ford has (temporarily) stopped taking new orders on vehicles with the 3.73 rear axle (heavy duty trailer towing package or FX4 package). Has anyone else hear this or is he just telling me a good story?
  11. shane_th_ee

    FX4 Tires: A/T or All Season?

    So my FX4 order sheet shows "275/65R18 AT OWL TIRES", but all the FX4 photos I can find seem to show Michelin Primacy XC tires. Which is what Tire Rack shows as the OEM installed tire for a 2018 Expedition Max. But it lists them as all season tires... What gives?
  12. shane_th_ee

    All About 4 Wheel Drive Systems and Modes

    Alrighty, here's your primer on four wheel drive systems and modes. 1. What is 4A and what does it do? 4A (A for Auto) is another word for "all wheel drive". In this mode, a viscous coupling* is used in the center differential** to adjust the torque split between the front and rear axles. The...
  13. shane_th_ee

    2018 FX4 and Trailer Towing Packages? Why?

    If I buy the FX4 package is there really any reason to get the trailer tow package, too? As far as I can tell, if you've selected the FX4 package, the only thing you get with the trailer tow package is the integrated brake controller and the back-up pro assist. I can see the back up pro assist...
  14. shane_th_ee

    FX4 with Trailer Tow Package: Why?

    If I buy the FX4 package is there really any reason to get the trailer tow package, too? As far as I can tell, if you've selected the FX4 package, the only thing you get with the trailer tow package is the integrated brake controller and the back-up pro assist. I can see the back up pro assist...
  15. shane_th_ee

    How to Search Inventory up to 999mi

    This morning I discovered how to use Ford's website to search inventory up to 999 miles away. Set up a normal inventory search, then change the radius to something other than 20mi. Now look at the address bar on your web browser, and find where it says "Radius=" followed by 2-3 numbers which...
  16. shane_th_ee

    Greetings From Seattle, WA

    Not an owner yet. But with 4 little kids, a 16 year old Jeep, plans for a travel trailer, and plans for much more playing in the mountains as the kids get older, it's time to start thinking about a new SUV. I had pretty much settled on a Z71 Suburban until they announced the FX4 package for...

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