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  1. MidwestBoater

    2017 water pump replacement

    Did the water pump on my '16 last fall, my word of advice is to be careful with the plastic turbo tubing when you remove it, I cracked one of mine, it was over $300 for a replacement and I couldn't find one used, so I used two part epoxy to repair it. Also, I did the main serpentine belt while...
  2. MidwestBoater

    2017 Ford El ticking

    That sounds normal to me. I've had my '16 EB Expedition for 3 years and have put 50,000 miles on it (at 105,000 miles now), it's sounded like that since the day I bought it. The HPFP makes some noise as do the injectors. The fuel injectors in direct injected engines are quite loud.
  3. MidwestBoater

    Exhaust fumes in cabin

    These things run quite rich and a little rough on a cold start during the winter, creating rather stinky exhaust, which is easily gets sucked into the hvac vents at the base of the windshield. This has been my experience as well.
  4. MidwestBoater

    Owners of 2015-2017 Models - is yours reliable?

    No, my truck doesn't have a limited slip rear diff.
  5. MidwestBoater

    Owners of 2015-2017 Models - is yours reliable?

    I use Mobil 1 5w30 full syn for the engine, Mobil 1 full syn gear lube for the differentials, and Motorcraft Mercon LV for the transmission and T case.
  6. MidwestBoater

    Catch Can!

    I'm neither for or against catch cans, but I'm at 102,000 on my 2016 EB Expy without a catch can and no issues to speak of. The truck runs great. I've change the plugs twice, both times the old plugs were clean. I use full synthetic oil, do changes every 5k miles, and only use "top tier"...
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    2015 Expedition Engine Rattle

    That's outrageous for a water pump.. I just did the pump on my '16, it's external, not internal like most people seem to think. The motorcraft pump was like $80 from Rock Auto and you're replacing most of the coolant anyway since you have to drain the radiator before hand and half the coolant...
  8. MidwestBoater

    2015 Expedition Engine Rattle

    Oh damn, that sure doesn't sound good. What does the oil change history look like? Just curious.
  9. MidwestBoater

    Another CEL on our 2017...

    over 100,000 miles on the original plugs and the dealer didn't recommend replacement? That's pretty odd. These engines are known to eat spark plugs (regardless of what the manual says about 100k spark plug changes). When I changed mine at around 60,000 miles they had pretty large gaps. At...
  10. MidwestBoater

    code P2112 Expedition 2015

    My 2016 just did this a little while ago. I bought a new throttle body from a local parts store for $100, it took 10 minutes to swap them out. It's an easy job if you've worked on cars before. I took the old one apart, the teeth on the gears were fine, the TB and blade were clean, it most...
  11. MidwestBoater

    looking at a 15 EL XLT. engine sounds?

    On a used ecoboost I would want to see a maintenance log. When I bought mine with 57,xxx miles the vehicle history report showed that it had gotten oil changes every 5,000 miles at the dealership since new. Frequent oil changes (and full synthetic) are imperative to the life expectancy of a...
  12. MidwestBoater

    The grass isn't always greener

    Just a reminder for those of us with direct injected twin turbo charged engines with variable cam timing that the "simpler" v8s have issues too. A friend just got the repair estimate for his one owner 2013 Escalade with a 6.2v8 (98,xxx miles) that developed a valve-train tap. $5,800 to replace...
  13. MidwestBoater

    eco boost swap?

    I sure wouldn't want to do it. If it were me I think I'd rather swap it with rebuilt 5.4 (maybe with a few upgrades/goodies on it).
  14. MidwestBoater

    Next up: The water pump has failed

    It's done. The water pump itself is simple, those turbo tubes though are a PITA. I cracked the tube that runs between the air box and the driver's side turbo right where the PCV hose from the valve cover connects to it.. I called my local dealer, they located one and had it sent to them, but...
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    Next up: The water pump has failed

    I've done a water pump on a Ford modular v8 before, that was probably the best water pump design ever, one big oring. The water pump on these doesn't look particularly hard or anything, but it's not near as easy as those were.
  16. MidwestBoater

    Next up: The water pump has failed

    My wife has a 2011 Ford Edge with the 3.5 and the internal water pump, believe me, I keep a VERY close eye on it. There is a weep hole in the engine valley that you can't even see unless you remove the engine cover. If I do ever have to do a water pump on that thing it looks like a major PITA...
  17. MidwestBoater

    Next up: The water pump has failed

    It's only internal on the transverse mounted engines (wrong wheel drive) due to space constraints. The expedition and F150 have an external water pump.
  18. MidwestBoater

    Next up: The water pump has failed

    2016 XLT, 97,xxx miles. I noticed that classic hot antifreeze smell while sitting at a stop light Saturday.. When I got home I jacked up the front end, removed the skid plate that was soaked in coolant and saw the tell tale signs of a leaking water pump. This must not be a common failure on...
  19. MidwestBoater

    2017 Expedition Wrench Light

    My 2016 just did this a little over a week ago, i pulled the active code before restarting it, and after restart the code was gone, which seems like a pretty stupid design, well aside from losing all power at highway speeds. Anyway, mine had a P2112 code "Throttle Control Actuator Control System...
  20. MidwestBoater

    How to reset the basic Sync system

    Thanks Black, I'll give both of those ideas a try.
  21. MidwestBoater

    How to reset the basic Sync system

    I have a 2016 XLT with the same Sync system as the OP and hit a brick wall because in my menu I can't get past the Sync-Media option.. When I select it, it acts like it's going to take me to that menu for a split second, then it just comes back to the previous menu. I never found a solution. A...
  22. MidwestBoater

    Problems with the 3.5L Turbo Engines 2015-17???

    I have a regular length 2016 XLT with tow package. I do a lot of boat towing, about 180 miles roundtrip every other summer weekend and 2 trips a year to lakes that are 250+ miles away. The Expedition has gobs of low end grunt, even towing my parachute (a tritoon), it hardly ever needs to...
  23. MidwestBoater

    What is your average MPG?

    Model : 2016 Expedition XLT w/tow package Engine : 3.5 Eco Mileage : 95,xxx miles Current average MPG : 20.1, I get around 10mpg towing my tritoon. Mods : SCT Tuner with 89 octane perf/tow tune from 5*
  24. MidwestBoater

    Bench vs. Captains Seats

    This is exactly what I did. This gives you more space for luggage too. Works great.
  25. MidwestBoater

    Trade truck for Expedition?

    After having driven 1/2 ton pickup trucks for many years, we really needed something with more interior room AND that could tow the boat with ease, so we ended up with a '16 Expedition XLT. This is my favorite vehicle of all that I've owned over the years. The low end torque, the smooth ride...

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