Not trying to start an argument but if your tunes are being mailed to you, they’re “canned”. The tunes your running were developed from some test car of the same make and model, not your own. That’s why Livernoise offers tuning on their in house dyno for a true “custom” tune for your car.
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Oldnerdguy
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With the LMS changes you request, do you have to download and send data in from your vehicle? If you are doing this, it would definitely be a little more than a canned tune. If not, is "canned tweak" a term? Haha (meant in jest not mean sarcasm)
Uprev programmers are the high end ones used for Nissan. The Tuners send you a baseline tune and then you go and drive the vehicle (certain exercises are needed along with some regular driving) and record data and send it back to the Tuner and they tweak according to your vehicle's data. And repeat this a few times til it is where you and they want it.
Uprev programmers are the high end ones used for Nissan. The Tuners send you a baseline tune and then you go and drive the vehicle (certain exercises are needed along with some regular driving) and record data and send it back to the Tuner and they tweak according to your vehicle's data. And repeat this a few times til it is where you and they want it.
You can’t log with the LMS tuner. Again you need HP tuners or EFI Live or the equivalent and a wide band o2 sensor.
That is correct. No logging with LMS, or Hypertech. Limited with SCT, and HP Tuners. No EFI Live for most Fords.
Yes, I do realize what Datalogging is, and what Custom Tuning is.
Here are my definitions of the different types of tuning and examples.
Canned - One or Very few vehicles were put on a Dyno and tuned, few people tested, then was released to the public - Hyper Tech, SCT(Non Custom Tuner Versions), SuperChips, BullyDog
Non-Canned(Tweak as OldNerdGuy put it) - Many vehicles were dynoed/tuned in person, continued development, and changes can be requested based on customer testing and feedback. No or Very Little Data Logging. - LMS, SCT(Custom Tunes via Computer/Remote)
Custom Tuning - Your Vehicle is on the Dyno, or extensive data Logging is possible. Also some can allow you as the owner to tweak the tune. - HP Tuners(Complete Control), LMS(In Person at LMS), SCT(In Person), EFI Live
Many above examples aren’t available for ours or many non-performance vehicles..[emoji12]
Here are my definitions of the different types of tuning and examples.
Canned - One or Very few vehicles were put on a Dyno and tuned, few people tested, then was released to the public - Hyper Tech, SCT(Non Custom Tuner Versions), SuperChips, BullyDog
Non-Canned(Tweak as OldNerdGuy put it) - Many vehicles were dynoed/tuned in person, continued development, and changes can be requested based on customer testing and feedback. No or Very Little Data Logging. - LMS, SCT(Custom Tunes via Computer/Remote)
Custom Tuning - Your Vehicle is on the Dyno, or extensive data Logging is possible. Also some can allow you as the owner to tweak the tune. - HP Tuners(Complete Control), LMS(In Person at LMS), SCT(In Person), EFI Live
Many above examples aren’t available for ours or many non-performance vehicles..[emoji12]
AllBoostNoEco
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Adding to the fun, I have an appointment in January when I get back from leave to get my truck on a dyno for 3 days.
Should answer some questions about what we really get. I’ve already confirmed they adhere to the SAE J1349 standard conditions (77 degrees, 29.92 barometric, etc), so it’s about as apples-to-apples as I can get with how Ford rates their engines. They are going to run it stock tune, then the 5 Star 93 tune to see how it performs, and then throw it in the trash and custom tune it from the ground up.
Should answer some questions about what we really get. I’ve already confirmed they adhere to the SAE J1349 standard conditions (77 degrees, 29.92 barometric, etc), so it’s about as apples-to-apples as I can get with how Ford rates their engines. They are going to run it stock tune, then the 5 Star 93 tune to see how it performs, and then throw it in the trash and custom tune it from the ground up.
Very cool! Who is doing it? Look forward to seeing the graphs!
AllBoostNoEco
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It’s a local place called Injected Performance. Seem to have their heads on straight and their lead programmer actually called me instead of making me call him when he wanted to get more info on what I was looking for.
Spoke volumes to me on their customer service considering I was only a prospective customer at the time.
Spoke volumes to me on their customer service considering I was only a prospective customer at the time.
Muddy Bean
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Man all this tune talk is making me want more from my 3.5 TT. Ray, how much does the highest performance 93 octane tune affect daily driving manners? My truck is my family mover but we drive around 30,000 miles a year. Lots of hwy. I would love to push the max performance I safely can out of my 3.5TT. I don’t mind firmer shifting, but if it creates obnoxious daily driving manners (jerky shifts, touchy throttle etc) then I might reconsider.
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Honestly, I am not a fan of the Hypertech 93 Tuning. I have sent a few messages to one of their techs and they have adjusted, but still pulls to much power while shifting at WOT. The 87 Power bump with the Street Throttle and Shift Settings I have been very happy with. It allows me to get above stock 93 feeling while running 87. It is giving me the best of both worlds in my opinion.
This Motor pulls real good in low and the middle of the power band, but the Dyno graph Hypertech has published shows even more in the Middle and you can feel it. Been meaning to get numbers, but need get my GTech from my Dad.
