Thoughts on towing this trailer?

[8131full]

I have a 2018 w/ tow package.

Specs on trailer:

2016 Pacific Coachworks Ragen 25FBX
Length 29 ft 7 in (31' total)
Hitch Weight 860 lbs
Gross Weight 9990 lbs
Dry Weight 6180 lbs
Cargo Weight 4720 lbs

https://www.rvingplanet.com/product/new-2016-pacific-coachworks-ragen-25fbx-387246-28

I won't be hauling anything heavy in it, just a lot of gear etc. So, with food/water/etc I will be well under 9k LBS tow rating.

Will be using WDH, of course.

Just curious what you guys think about towing close to the limit like this. Thoughts? Too ambitious?

 

[cullinan18]

I think the tongue weight will be way too much The listed tongue is when the trailer is "empty". When you add propane, battery, cargo, water, etc the tongue weight will increase I've heard frequently to calculate tongue weight at 10-13% from GVWR.

 

[1997SCEBFEX]

couple of thoughts, and gloss over if you've been trailering for a while:
*take time to get your electric brake controller figured out; find a big empty parking lot and do so runs.
*imho, if you can wait until you're close to destination to fill up water, that's several hundred pounds you don't need to transport.
*trailering mirrors?
*does the trailer have at least one spare? perhaps get another.
*do you have a jack and chocks to lift it in case of a flat?

Congrats

 

[8131full]

I think the tongue weight will be way too much The listed tongue is when the trailer is "empty". When you add propane, battery, cargo, water, etc the tongue weight will increase I've heard frequently to calculate tongue weight at 10-13% from GVWR.

i've seen tongue weight listed when empty and when loaded, and kinda figured this was loaded, as it seems high for only being 6k dry weight. The current owner says he tows it fine with an older Tundra. Need to investigate this.

 

[8131full]

couple of thoughts, and gloss over if you've been trailering for a while:
*take time to get your electric brake controller figured out; find a big empty parking lot and do so runs.
*imho, if you can wait until you're close to destination to fill up water, that's several hundred pounds you don't need to transport.
*trailering mirrors?
*does the trailer have at least one spare? perhaps get another.
*do you have a jack and chocks to lift it in case of a flat?

Congrats

Yup, been towing for years with multiple rigs. Appreciate the tips, though.

 

[shane_th_ee]

i've seen tongue weight listed when empty and when loaded, and kinda figured this was loaded, as it seems high for only being 6k dry weight. The current owner says he tows it fine with an older Tundra. Need to investigate this.

That's because it's a toy hauler and toy haulers are designed with heavy dry tongue weights. Otherwise, once you put all the (heavy) toys in the garage, you'll end up with too little tongue weight and the thing will sway...

 

[Adieu]

Seems well within the limits, which are usually extremely UNDERstated for safety and liability reasons.

All down to how comfortable and experienced you are with towing.

 

[Flexpedition]

The current owner says he tows it fine with an older Tundra.

All I needed to read. You'll be fine.

 

[8131full]

i've seen tongue weight listed when empty and when loaded, and kinda figured this was loaded, as it seems high for only being 6k dry weight. The current owner says he tows it fine with an older Tundra. Need to investigate this.

Edit: owner states he towed it with a Tahoe (2014) just fine. That makes no sense as that has max towing of around 5500lbs (IIRC).

 

[Habbibie]

You're pretty much at capacity with what your expedition is rated for, gas milage is going to be absolutely horrible. Your wheel base isn't that long either but I think it'll tow it fine just make sure your trailer brakes are dialed in.

I drive a company issued transit 250 and its max capacity is 12,000 lbs and I've towed 12,000 lbs before with it (my 250 has same engine as your expedition) it screams when getting off the line and tricky holding your lane on the highway, not really my cup of tea for long trips it'll keep you on edge the majority of the time.