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Sure they could

Lifts put strain on the UCAs. And not torquing down a DIY job correctly can mess anything and everything up, and just plain kill you, too
 
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I did not touch UCAs or hubs. Only sway bar, shocks and lower arm bolts (replaced) which were torqued at alignment shop.
 

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Yes, and you can get out and stick a knife in your tire too. The leveling/lift kits we're talking about here won't do any damage. It wouldn't harm a ball joint unless there is something else wrong.
Completely wrong, the spacers stress the crap out of the UCAs and ball joints bc it changes the geometry angles of the suspension whereas a real lift kit moves the suspension components up to keep an OEM like angle for all parts. They most certainly will, over time, and more quickly wear out the ball joints and other components. Put the spacers in wrong, improperly torquing, bad ball joints, UCA rubbing spring at full extension can all cause noises. Do some research bud
 

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Completely wrong, the spacers stress the crap out of the UCAs and ball joints bc it changes the geometry angles of the suspension whereas a real lift kit moves the suspension components up to keep an OEM like angle for all parts. They most certainly will, over time, and more quickly wear out the ball joints and other components. Put the spacers in wrong, improperly torquing, bad ball joints, UCA rubbing spring at full extension can all cause noises. Do some research bud
HA! I love you guys. You need to do your own research "bud." The amount of geometry change that these tiny little spacers create won't make a bit of difference. You must not bounce down the road at all up there in Mass. Sorry, but I spent 41 years in Mass unfortunately. I know better.
As I've said many times before. I put the 2 1/2" spacers/leveling kit in the front of my 05 F350 diesel. I drove it for 100k miles, with an 8' Fisher plow hanging off the front of it every winter. The UCAs and LCAs were just fine when I got rid of it. Your argument is invalid. I'm not just a keyboard mechanic.

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HA! I love you guys. You need to do your own research "bud." The amount of geometry change that these tiny little spacers create won't make a bit of difference. You must not bounce down the road at all up there in Mass. Sorry, but I spent 41 years in Mass unfortunately. I know better.
As I've said many times before. I put the 2 1/2" spacers/leveling kit in the front of my 05 F350 diesel. I drove it for 100k miles, with an 8' Fisher plow hanging off the front of it every winter. The UCAs and LCAs were just fine when I got rid of it. Your argument is invalid. I'm not just a keyboard mechanic.

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Dude, You cannot compare a solid axle front end to an independent front end.

While I think the fact that @patsfan4life takes leaves a little to be disused he is dead on correct.

Wish I could whiteboard on a forum. Spacers on a solid axle move the whole assembly down, and everything suspension wise stays pretty close. Angles for the actual suspension components mostly stay the same.

On an independent front end it increases the angle that the A-Arms are at by default under normal ride and static circumstances. That increases load and changes the direction forces on all of the components.

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You cannot compare a solid axle front end to an independent front end.
True enough; however, I still stand by what I said about the geometry not being changed enough to make a bit of difference to the ball joints.
 

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True enough, however; I still stand by what I said about the geometry not being changed enough to make a bit of difference to the ball joints.

And sorry, but you would be wrong. Go read any forum with lifted IFS vehicles, and there is a MUCH higher rate of suspension component failure, mostly ball joints, and end links.


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And sorry, but you would be wrong. Go read any forum with lifted IFS vehicles, and there is a MUCH higher rate of suspension component failure, mostly ball joints, and end links.


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Yes, LIFTED ifs trucks. Not 2" leveling kits.
 

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Yes, LIFTED ifs trucks. Not 2" leveling kits.

Yep, and again wrong. I have a really good friend that used to own an off-road shop. He mentioned it for every “leveling kit”, or “spacer kit” he installed on IFS trucks before he sold it. IT DEFINITELY puts additional strain. Sorry, but this is just physics and basic suspension geometry.

Regardless of the additional wear discussion, glad ya’ll are happy with the E-Bay kits.


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Yep, and again wrong. I have a really good friend that used to own an off-road shop. He mentioned it for every “leveling kit”, or “spacer kit” he installed on IFS trucks before he sold it. IT DEFINITELY puts additional strain. Sorry, but this is just physics and basic suspension geometry.

Regardless of the additional wear discussion, glad ya’ll are happy with the E-Bay kits.


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Sorry you had that "friend". My experiences are in the real world under conditions where I was the actual one that saw, touched and felt. Believe none of what you hear and half of what you see. I'll take my own experiences over your friends opinion. Thanks for playing though...
 

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