Experience towing with ecoboost?

jberzer · Jun 14, 2016

Hey there, just wondering if anyone has any experience towing with the ESPY Max with 3.73's and ecoboost?
Just recently found out we are having our 4th child so need to upgrade my vehicle to fit the extra head count. I currently have a 2012 F150 ecoboost with the 3.73's and tow a trailer around 6600lbs loaded. Pulls is like a dream but was planning on getting a little bit bigger trailer.
Just trying to figure out if I should buy the Expedition or a diesel F-350 with the jump seat. This will be my wifes daily driver.
Thanks

stamp11127 · Jun 14, 2016

Diesels are great if you stay on top of the maintenance and don't cheap out on oil and filters. If you take the cheap route it will be very costly down the road.
Also you can't just shut them off after driving or you cook the turbo bearings and seals which will require a reman turbo unless you can rebuild it yourself. I let my jetta diesel idle for 3 minutes before shutting down.

powerboatr · Jun 14, 2016

havent towed yet with ours...but as far as get up and go...it gets up and go's better than the 150 eco boost it replaced.

dspfeiffer · Jun 29, 2016

We just came back from a trip through the Catskills in NY. Some pretty steep grades and long hills. I couldn't be happier with our 2016 Expedition EL Limited. 3.73 gears, self leveling. Last year I pulled the same trailer up those hills with my 2009 Expedition with the 5.4L. On one hill we couldn't break 45 miles per hour without mashing it to the floor. This year with the Ecoboost engine, we cruised easily up those EXACT SAME HILLS at 60-65 without breaking a sweat. Probably didn't go much over 3,500rpm.

We bought this Expedition (it's our 3rd and by far the best) in the winter and I was worried that there was a lot of hype associated with the Ecoboost engine. I loved the acceleration of the EB, but this was the first time I could actually tow with it. I was extremely happy with how it towed on this trip. It went above and beyond what I was expecting. Also, if you have the opportunity, do not pass up the self-leveling (Nivomat) shocks. They work exactly as advertised. We start out with a little squat, and in a few miles we are running perfectly level.

Just for sake of comparison, we are pulling a 2013 Keystone Cougar 31 SQB. I estimate it tops out loaded at around 8,500-9,000 lbs. This truck pulls it EASILY!

The only downside is fuel mileage. Don't believe that hype. It's no better, and possible a little worse, than the 5.4L engine. But I would take the power and torque any day over the 1 mpg or so difference.

bret191 · Jun 30, 2016

jberzer said:
Hey there, just wondering if anyone has any experience towing with the ESPY Max with 3.73's and ecoboost?
Just recently found out we are having our 4th child so need to upgrade my vehicle to fit the extra head count. I currently have a 2012 F150 ecoboost with the 3.73's and tow a trailer around 6600lbs loaded. Pulls is like a dream but was planning on getting a little bit bigger trailer.
Just trying to figure out if I should buy the Expedition or a diesel F-350 with the jump seat. This will be my wifes daily driver.
Thanks

I have to tell you that a diesel is not at all a economic vehicle, and a ford once you get some miles on it has a very good likely hood that it could cost you a few thousand a year just in repair cost! I work on them daily and if you spend a few days researching them "Ford" you will see a trend. I get really sad for all of these poor men and woman that end up going broke because of a ford diesel. I have one in the bay at this moment thats going to have ANOTHER multi thousand dollar bill and my next door neighbour just took his in and the quote is $3000-5500. When running they have plenty of power and you do have some that can and do run a full lifespan without major pain but just be informed of ALL the possibilities. Now a for a gas engine ford you cant go wrong. Very reliable and decent fuel mileage for a truck. Its nothing to get at least 200,000 miles and more with NO problems.I would say for every 20 diesel engines we get maybe one gas engine and its usually due to poor maintenance or low coolant ect. Keep the maintenance up and you cant find a better engine! Good luck..

jlanka · Jul 25, 2016

dspfeiffer said:
We just came back from a trip through the Catskills in NY. Some pretty steep grades and long hills. I couldn't be happier with our 2016 Expedition EL Limited. 3.73 gears, self leveling. Last year I pulled the same trailer up those hills with my 2009 Expedition with the 5.4L. On one hill we couldn't break 45 miles per hour without mashing it to the floor. This year with the Ecoboost engine, we cruised easily up those EXACT SAME HILLS at 60-65 without breaking a sweat. Probably didn't go much over 3,500rpm.

We bought this Expedition (it's our 3rd and by far the best) in the winter and I was worried that there was a lot of hype associated with the Ecoboost engine. I loved the acceleration of the EB, but this was the first time I could actually tow with it. I was extremely happy with how it towed on this trip. It went above and beyond what I was expecting. Also, if you have the opportunity, do not pass up the self-leveling (Nivomat) shocks. They work exactly as advertised. We start out with a little squat, and in a few miles we are running perfectly level.

Just for sake of comparison, we are pulling a 2013 Keystone Cougar 31 SQB. I estimate it tops out loaded at around 8,500-9,000 lbs. This truck pulls it EASILY!

The only downside is fuel mileage. Don't believe that hype. It's no better, and possible a little worse, than the 5.4L engine. But I would take the power and torque any day over the 1 mpg or so difference.

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Well, this is exactly the info I was looking for. I'm sold, the Expedition EL will replace my Suburban, towing capacity is what I'm looking for. Thanks for your endorsement

ANGEL TORES · Jan 17, 2019

dspfeiffer said:
We just came back from a trip through the Catskills in NY. Some pretty steep grades and long hills. I couldn't be happier with our 2016 Expedition EL Limited. 3.73 gears, self leveling. Last year I pulled the same trailer up those hills with my 2009 Expedition with the 5.4L. On one hill we couldn't break 45 miles per hour without mashing it to the floor. This year with the Ecoboost engine, we cruised easily up those EXACT SAME HILLS at 60-65 without breaking a sweat. Probably didn't go much over 3,500rpm.

We bought this Expedition (it's our 3rd and by far the best) in the winter and I was worried that there was a lot of hype associated with the Ecoboost engine. I loved the acceleration of the EB, but this was the first time I could actually tow with it. I was extremely happy with how it towed on this trip. It went above and beyond what I was expecting. Also, if you have the opportunity, do not pass up the self-leveling (Nivomat) shocks. They work exactly as advertised. We start out with a little squat, and in a few miles we are running perfectly level.

Just for sake of comparison, we are pulling a 2013 Keystone Cougar 31 SQB. I estimate it tops out loaded at around 8,500-9,000 lbs. This truck pulls it EASILY!

The only downside is fuel mileage. Don't believe that hype. It's no better, and possible a little worse, than the 5.4L engine. But I would take the power and torque any day over the 1 mpg or so difference.

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Hello, I was looking through this forum for ideas on what weight distribution hitch I should use. I own a 2015 Expi and I tow a 30ft Cherokee Grey wolf camper with a gwr of 8600lbs. I think I should change my wdh because of the squat I get when hooked up. What wdh do you use? Hope to here from you soon, have a good day and safe travels.

ANGEL TORES · Jan 17, 2019

Hello, I was looking through this forum for ideas on what weight distribution hitch I should use. I own a 2015 Expi and I tow a 30ft Cherokee Grey wolf camper with a gwr of 8600lbs. I think I should change my wdh because of the squat I get when hooked up. What wdh do you use? Hope to here from you soon, have a good day and safe travels.

Edistobob · Jan 17, 2019

ANGEL TORES said:
Hello, I was looking through this forum for ideas on what weight distribution hitch I should use. I own a 2015 Expi and I tow a 30ft Cherokee Grey wolf camper with a gwr of 8600lbs. I think I should change my wdh because of the squat I get when hooked up. What wdh do you use? Hope to here from you soon, have a good day and safe travels.

We tow an Airstream, about 6950 lbs total weight, 840 lbs of which is tongue weight. We've towed with a 2008 Expy and now a 2018 Expy. Have never had a problem getting the Expy and the trailer level, no sag on the Expy, using a Reese Dual Cam hitch. Typically when I measured loaded the front and rear axle of either Expy were within 1/2" or less of the same ride height. Also the Reese is pretty easy to adjust by using different chain links to adjust the WD tension as necessary.

shane_th_ee · Jan 18, 2019

ANGEL TORES said:
Hello, I was looking through this forum for ideas on what weight distribution hitch I should use. I own a 2015 Expi and I tow a 30ft Cherokee Grey wolf camper with a gwr of 8600lbs. I think I should change my wdh because of the squat I get when hooked up. What wdh do you use? Hope to here from you soon, have a good day and safe travels.

What's your tongue weight and what size are your spring bars? When we bought our used trailer, the previous owner threw in the WDH, but it only had 600lb bars for a trailer with a ~930lb tongue weight. My new 1200lb bars worked wonders!

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