New to me 2007 EL LIMITED & all it's problems

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Cycle the ignition switch 2 or 3 times, for 3 seconds, to the run position before starting, that will prime the fuel rail until you are able to replace the pump.
Thanks for the advice. This worked for a time then increasingly got worse. Replaced the fuel pump and fuel filter today. Starts up first time Everytime!!!


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Just thought I'd update those of you following this thread.

So, I've replaced both hydraulic brake lines due to it pulling to the right when braking hard. After replacing it, it no longer pulls under braking.

Replaced both wheel bearings and slight vibration and noise gone.

Last week had a new code come through my check engine light. #1 & #3 cylinders misfire. So I replaced all for on bank one because of mileage and if two go more to follow. Noticed it would still stumble when it first started and thought it had to do with a sign of bank two coils going. So I replaced all four this past week. Definite improvement just not what I had expected.

The hard start was getting worse after cycling the key three times and then turning it over three times it would start. Finally decided I had enough and I replaced the fuel pump today. Starts up Everytime!! Replacing all the spark plugs, all the coil packs, and the fuel pump has really woke it up!! This thing feels like a different animal!!

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I have a 2007 EL EB and have had my share of quirts and issues. Some bigger than others. I bought mine of my folks a couple years ago with only 115K on her, now at 160+.

Currently having a front vibration issue with speed. Noticeable at 60 MPH+ and when I even tap the gas on the highway. Occasionally shakes just accelerating on any road. I'm guessing either mounts, control arms, etc in the front. Gonna get it checked out when I go in for an oil change in a week or so. Hopefully not major.

Second is brakes. I replaced the rotors and pads last summer with HD Powerstops (cross drilled) and they worked good until I cooked them on a long trip from GA to NY and back. Lots of trucks pulling out and had to brake hard with it loaded down with family, luggage, and a roof storage box. Probably need the front replaced. But I have always had crappy brakes with this thing. I'm guess in need to replace either the lines or a caliper rebuild. Just don't have the time I used to as the kids have gotten older and need more "dad taxi".

EVAP leak, but I've just limped it along with cans of refrigerant from Autozone, $40 versus $1500. Easy choice. As long as it cools we are good. Cooling seats don't work, but heated ones do (I fixed those myself when it burned out 1.5 years ago)

Other than those I get compliments all the time on how clean it is and how good the paint is, etc. I keep her clean and tinted all the windows dark so its a good ride. Armrest and drivers seat is starting to crack a bit, but minor.

Overall its a good vehicle, but not as reliable as my Sport Trac (2003 XLT) was, but it has a lot more options on it.
 

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Good some things addressed by my local garage this week. The vibration issue was due to tires/balance issue so I had them all rotated, weighted and load balanced it instead of just the crappy Firestone wheel balance....huge difference. Then got new rotors, scuffed the pads (they were still meaty), and then rebuilt both calipers (was pulling to left back on heavy braking) and new brake lines. All should be well now.
 
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The heated/cooled seats went out on the front driver and passenger side. I did some research and found that the plug into the climate control module for the seats burns up due to a defect.

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So I ordered the plug wired it up

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and it didn’t work.... so I ordered a new control module and that didn’t work....

I learned that after installing a new one that you have to remove power from it by removing the #8 fuse in the fuse box under the hood. I did so for the recommended 2 minutes and they worked like they had before. Problem fixed!!


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My friends pick on mine saying FORD stands for Fix Or Repair Daily. I had Cherokee and 2 Wranglers with high mileage that required constant little things to be repaired. Both ran great but the nickel & dime stuff was enough to sell them to someone with more patience.

You can keep anything on the road with enough time and $$$.

Sounds like you are the right man for your Expy. It's a body on frame truck with TLC (that you are providing) no reason it won't get double the mileage.

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Found on the road dead is one of the others!

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I have a 2007 EL EB and have had my share of quirts and issues. Some bigger than others. I bought mine of my folks a couple years ago with only 115K on her, now at 160+.

Currently having a front vibration issue with speed. Noticeable at 60 MPH+ and when I even tap the gas on the highway. Occasionally shakes just accelerating on any road. I'm guessing either mounts, control arms, etc in the front. Gonna get it checked out when I go in for an oil change in a week or so. Hopefully not major.

Second is brakes. I replaced the rotors and pads last summer with HD Powerstops (cross drilled) and they worked good until I cooked them on a long trip from GA to NY and back. Lots of trucks pulling out and had to brake hard with it loaded down with family, luggage, and a roof storage box. Probably need the front replaced. But I have always had crappy brakes with this thing. I'm guess in need to replace either the lines or a caliper rebuild. Just don't have the time I used to as the kids have gotten older and need more "dad taxi".

EVAP leak, but I've just limped it along with cans of refrigerant from Autozone, $40 versus $1500. Easy choice. As long as it cools we are good. Cooling seats don't work, but heated ones do (I fixed those myself when it burned out 1.5 years ago)

Other than those I get compliments all the time on how clean it is and how good the paint is, etc. I keep her clean and tinted all the windows dark so its a good ride. Armrest and drivers seat is starting to crack a bit, but minor.

Overall its a good vehicle, but not as reliable as my Sport Trac (2003 XLT) was, but it has a lot more options on it.

For that AC evap leak, go get Red Angel ac stop leak. It comes in pressurized can with tube and a 2 oz liquid bottle. I have an injector so I like the liquid bottle a lot better.
This is the ONLY ac stop leak I have used to date that works and doesn't clog anything up.

It will make a 2 week leak a 2-3 month leak an a once a season leak non existent.

It is a little over 30.00 though, but they have a money back guarantee.
They changed the way they do it recently. They use to send you a new bottle if you called them. I had one not work about 10 years ago. Now you mail them the empty bottle and receipt and copy of driver's license and they send you a check.
Odd. Seems it would be a lot cheaper just to mail you a fresh bottle even if they still wanted old back and license and receipt etc.
They LOSE money this way. If they mail you a second one...they still make money form the sale to original place they sold it to.

It won't work for as fast of leaks as they claim but it does work.
 

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My '12 Navigator L cost me like 12.5k... lower miles, no check engine

I've seen 08 or 09 for $8 something

2007 El Limited ,
90k miles,
showroom floor grade interior ,
dealer maintain from day one
Upgraded plugs
Transmission fluid flushes
4x4
Remote start
3/2 lift
New raptor rims and brand new bfg 35s
And best of all......driveshafts were the only things with rust.

Paid 17,500 and 800 to ship it from the midwest. (Just under 3 years ago )

I got a killer deal .

8,000$ in the northeast for a 3rd gen el limited is going to have serious issues seen and not. I looked sub-13k for 6 months, in the northeast. Saw some serious nightmares.

Again market could be different now, but , 17,500 for it when all factors are added up, was a good deal.

At least to me.
 

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Good some things addressed by my local garage this week. The vibration issue was due to tires/balance issue so I had them all rotated, weighted and load balanced it instead of just the crappy Firestone wheel balance....huge difference. Then got new rotors, scuffed the pads (they were still meaty), and then rebuilt both calipers (was pulling to left back on heavy braking) and new brake lines. All should be well now.

If you still have brake issues replace the front flex brake lines. Mine was a mess until those were replaced and its 1000% percent better just from that inexpensive repair.
 
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