5W-30 instead of 5W-20

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chuck s

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@Viper10000 Anything notable in the Blackstone comments section?

I'm also using Ford's full synthetic in my Expedition but no oil samples yet. Will see how the 3.5 EcoBoost looks now that I'll be able to sample if without dumping all the oil. I don't drive the Expedition enough to do more than the "or 12 months whichever is less" oil changes.

All engines "shear" oil. Four years of sampling the Royal Purple 5W-30 full synthetic in my 2006 Honda S2000 (2.2 liter, 8400rpm red line) shows the SUS Viscosity @ 210°F and the cSt Viscosity @ 100°C both at the low end of the "should be" range. Mileage doesn't seem to matter much with this engine and this oil. Last annual change was at 2004 miles and the numbers are in the same average range as changes as high as 6600 miles previously. All fine. I started tracking engine wear on this car because it's long out of production and the only source of engines is a few very expensive places in Japan.

Would be nice to know the SUS and cSt viscosity data for these oils right out of the can. Anyone?

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@Viper10000 Anything notable in the Blackstone comments section?

I'm also using Ford's full synthetic in my Expedition but no oil samples yet. Will see how the 3.5 EcoBoost looks now that I'll be able to sample if without dumping all the oil. I don't drive the Expedition enough to do more than the "or 12 months whichever is less" oil changes.

All engines "shear" oil. Four years of sampling the Royal Purple 5W-30 full synthetic in my 2006 Honda S2000 (2.2 liter, 8400rpm red line) shows the SUS Viscosity @ 210°F and the cSt Viscosity @ 100°C both at the low end of the "should be" range. Mileage doesn't seem to matter much with this engine and this oil. Last annual change was at 2004 miles and the numbers are in the same average range as changes as high as 6600 miles previously. All fine. I started tracking engine wear on this car because it's long out of production and the only source of engines is a few very expensive places in Japan.

Would be nice to know the SUS and cSt viscosity data for these oils right out of the can. Anyone?

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I have seen people run tests on brand new oil and then used to compare. A friend of mine just got rid of a brand new Honda with the turbo due to the oil dilution problems. He was at 3% dilution of fuel in his oil and they are having major problems and don't want to fix the issue so he just got rid of the car.
 

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Chuck, I’ll dig around for my reports and try to get them up on here for all to see. Basically from what has turned up in the reports, nothing seems to be of concern. I just thought it was interesting how hard this engine is on oil. Then again I’ve never taken samples like this on any other car I’ve owned. I do run samples on my mustang but that’s the 5.0 V8. Different animal.
 

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I run 10W-30 Magnatec. Ecoboost (and other direct injection engines) are known for fuel excessive fuel dilution, which winds up making the oil a 20 weight eventually. I've only done one change so far, but I have another one coming due in the next 30 - 60 days and will get it tested.
 

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Kevin --

Thanks for sharing your oil reports. The narratives are the important section and there is nothing in them that's any concern. I won't have anything to compare them to for several months (my Honda samples don't count).

Blackstone Laboratories has a large data base on our engines. "Your EcoBoost looks great to us" is the bottom line.

Which Oil is Better (Blackstone Laboratories)

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