Swollen lug nuts!

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jeff kushner

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Yes Sticker, that sounds pretty much they way I was formulating as Kerry skipped off to get my rubber mallet to try to save the one beginning to go off the rails............the unknown is how strong the side metal is...I was envisioning a needle-nose and rolling it back allowing it to tear itself.....

Prob is....I'll bet a lot of guys get screwed because they aren't aware of how easy these are to screw up.

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Yes Sticker, that sounds pretty much they way I was formulating as Kerry skipped off to get my rubber mallet to try to save the one beginning to go off the rails............the unknown is how strong the side metal is...I was envisioning a needle-nose and rolling it back allowing it to tear itself.....

Prob is....I'll bet a lot of guys get screwed because they aren't aware of how easy these are to screw up.

jeff
Yes, that sounds like Plan A. I would try that first also. I suspect the problem comes in when people attempt a "too large" socket and end up rolling the corners of the steel nut. Then you really are in the "oh shit" situation. Maybe that's when you do the welding someone spoke of in a post about broken off manifold studs? Ford should write a pamphlet on this.

Is there anything like a vise grip that screws down and would have enough purchase to take a boogered up lug nut off? Super turbo vise grip.
 

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Shop suggests I replace all of mine because they are shot. (Not a dealer, my go to guy who I trust)

Any suggestions on which ones to get for a 2016 Platinum with the 20” rims? Leaning toward the Gorillas; seems like the best bet. Just not sure exactly which one to get.

If you're ok with the cost, then they're as good as any. For a more budget-conscious route, you can usually pick up a set of OEM lugs for about $50 shipped on eBay. Dealers and wheel shops pull them off new/newer vehicles that get custom lugs.
 

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Tire Kingdom gave me a quote today for $260 dollars to replace mine when i was throwing on a new set of Michelins.


Wow. Considering they have to remove the lug nuts to change the tires all they have to do is use new lug nuts to 'replace' them.

And I just bought a set for $60 from Amazon.
 

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That's just because all shops are Crooks. Crooks I tell you. Crooks Crooks crooks. Ask a friend of mine just got a quote to replace a condenser on a 99 Town Car. Just the labor. 250! Anything over 150 is a rip off.
 

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The key is 6 sided sockets, no 12 points as I quickly learned as the cover began to twist over the core ....your lug wrench is correct unfortunately and nothing else will really be safe.

I think what amazes most of us that spin our own wrenches is that something this easy to get wrong even came to market! This while inventive, should have been caught at the proving stage where they initially tested these style lug nuts.....guess no one there had a socket wrench...


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The key is 6 sided sockets, no 12 points as I quickly learned as the cover began to twist over the core ....your lug wrench is correct unfortunately and nothing else will really be safe.

I think what amazes most of us that spin our own wrenches is that something this easy to get wrong even came to market! This while inventive, should have been caught at the proving stage where they initially tested these style lug nuts.....guess no one there had a socket wrench...


jeff


Everytime I look at socket sets in a store I get disgusted by the 12 points. It's hard to even find six points in a set and if you do you're lucky a half of them are six points. I have zero use for 12 point sockets and I've been through this with other people over the years. People argue that a 12-point holds better and I'm sorry, they are mistaken. I have despised 12 points all of my life. There have probably been four times maybe only three in my entire life a wrenching on cars and lawn mowers and bicycles Etc where I have needed a 12 point socket. I do remember the rod cap bolts on a 75 Buick Electra being a 12-point.
Yes, you can find some test where they show a 12-point or some other design socket holding better than a 6 point but this is not the real world and this is not on Fasteners that are already partially rounded off or stripped because over the years people have messed them up or they have rusted. I will always go for a 6-point hex head socket because that's all you ever need.
I went out probably almost 20 years ago for the Craftsman socket set that I was using with a nice big plastic box with the set a reminder removable tray and all of that, and replaced all my 12 points with six points.
So many sets on the market today only give you hex heads for very large sockets. They're kind of do I get backwards. They be doing any more of a favor to give you the six points on the smaller ones under 7/8 or 3/4 and give you the 12 points on a larger ones but I believe the reason they do that is is cheaper and easier to make the six points. Well good! Because that's the only ones I'm buying.
 

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Yeah, I got them, too. Factory wrench does not fit, 21mm does not fit, 22mm six-point is real sloppy. I don't believe it's corrosion underneath causing it as they have no bulge. Gonna take one apart and look
 

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I saw the following “work to be performed” in a confirmation for an oil change appointment at my local Ford dealer.

“VERIFIED LOCKING LUG KEY RETURNED TO ORIGINAL LOCATION”

Is this in any way related to the lug nut issue?
 
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