Problems with the 3.5L Turbo Engines 2015-17???

Should we start demanding a 4 door Bronco right now?

  • Hell Yes!!!

    Votes: 4 28.6%

  • I like the new 2018+ "Expedition" (Giant over priced Ford Flex)

    Votes: 5 35.7%

  • You should buy a 2015 Scion xB.

    Votes: 5 35.7%
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No Responses in the General Section so thought I'd ask the 3rd Gen owners.

Hey all, I see used 2015-2017 Expeditions for sale all over the place in CA with 20k-30k miles... Is there a major problem with the twin turbo 3.5L engine that I haven't read about yet? Does it overheat while towing and warp the heads or something like the famous 6.0L did? (Personal experience with my 04 Excursion; turbo lag, turbo filling with carbon, leaky injectors, Ford buy back, etc) I have a '13 Taurus with the 3.5L n.a. and it seems it could use a motor balancing. I can feel the vibrations in my seat when it winds-up. I would have thought a better choice for the Expedition EL was the 3.7L w/turbos.

I drove a 2015 for a couple days and didn't notice any drive-train problems.

Any thoughts from current owners with a bunch of miles towing boats & trailers?
Any troubles directly associated with the 3.5 that wouldn't have happened with a V8?

Is the 3.5L better than a late model 5.4?

I have a 2008 Expedition EL King Ranch 4x4 and took it into a shop to get the A/C fixed. Long story short, they destroyed my transmission and AAA looking to total the truck out due to the amount of damage they did during their "repair". Oh ya, A/C still broken. UGH!

Thanks everyone,

Tom
 
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TDGFordGuy said:
No Responses in the General Section so thought I'd ask the 3rd Gen owners.

Hey all, I see used 2015-2017 Expeditions for sale all over the place in CA with 20k-30k miles... Is there a major problem with the twin turbo 3.5L engine that I haven't read about yet? Does it overheat while towing and warp the heads or something like the famous 6.0L did? (Personal experience with my 04 Excursion; turbo lag, turbo filling with carbon, leaky injectors, Ford buy back, etc) I have a '13 Taurus with the 3.5L n.a. and it seems it could use a motor balancing. I can feel the vibrations in my seat when it winds-up. I would have thought a better choice for the Expedition EL was the 3.7L w/turbos.

I drove a 2015 for a couple days and didn't notice any drive-train problems.

Any thoughts from current owners with a bunch of miles towing boats & trailers?
Any troubles directly associated with the 3.5 that wouldn't have happened with a V8?

Is the 3.5L better than a late model 5.4?

I have a 2008 Expedition EL King Ranch 4x4 and took it into a shop to get the A/C fixed. Long story short, they destroyed my transmission and AAA looking to total the truck out due to the amount of damage they did during their "repair". Oh ya, A/C still broken. UGH!

Thanks everyone,

Tom
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No trouble at all. The 15-17s are now starting to come off-lease or being traded in for a newer vehicle.
 
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I like the new 2018+ "Expedition" (Giant over priced Ford Flex)
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Lol, that's a very good way of describing the newest generation. I don't know what Ford was thinking, but making the Expedition look like a giant minivan will probably not win over any Bronco / offroad fans.

Hell yes on a 4 door Bronco, even though the Expedition was the 4 door Bronco back in the late 90's... and now we've come full circle.

;)


EcoBoost: it was supposed to have a redesigned GDI system in 2018, which was meant to reduce valve carbonation with extra computer-controlled injectors.
 
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762mm said:
Lol, that's a very good way of describing the newest generation. I don't know what Ford was thinking, but making the Expedition look like a giant minivan will probably not win over any Bronco / offroad fans.

Hell yes on a 4 door Bronco, even though the Expedition was the 4 door Bronco back in the late 90's... and now we've come full circle.

;)


EcoBoost: it was supposed to have a redesigned GDI system in 2018, which was meant to reduce valve carbonation with extra computer-controlled injectors.
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Sorry, canon says a 4 door Bronco ain't a Bronco. Imagine a 4 door Mustang....just try.
 
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Sorry, canon says a 4 door Bronco ain't a Bronco. Imagine a 4 door Mustang....just try.
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I agree, but Ford's intention with the first generation Expedition was to make a more "family friendly" Bronco, off the F-150 platform just like the originals. From Wikipedia :

The Ford Expedition is a Full-size SUV manufactured by Ford. Introduced for the 1997 model year as the successor of the Ford Bronco, the Expedition was the first full-size Ford SUV sold with a four-door body.
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Now the latest Expedition has morphed into a big station wagon / minivan-thing and no longer fills that niche spot of being a go-anywhere family offroad vehicle.


This (2000) :

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VS this (2019) :


2019Exp.jpg


(You gotta admit, that 2000 model looks 10x more badass than the 2019 soccer mom special...)

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It just looks like Ford thought, "How can we make a carbon copy of the Tahoe? I know sir! We'll lower it, put a V6 in it, a Blue Oval on it and charge 2x a Tahoe for it!" Outcome... Jenson gets promoted to head of sales.

BTW, didn't Ford see that GM is bankrupt?
 
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Blah blah blah.... Ford Expedition is a look-alike. Boring.

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Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. Ford copying the Suburban was kind of a surprise to the automotive world. Belt line, door lines, spoiler were all dead copies from GM lol. Unfortunately Ford doesn’t make an expy as bad*ss as the RST Suburban/ Denali despite all the copying going on.

Anyway the 3.5 is a good engine, however totaling a perfectly good truck over a trans? I don’t get the situation. The shop should pony up and fix under their own business insurance or fork out the cash to fix. A 6R75 their cost is like 2,500 bucks, sounds like you are doing business with crooks. shop should be fixing it if they broke it and not displacing the vehicle.
 
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