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Go fly a kite palI only run permanent-close thermostats. Optimum for performance, I like to melt my engine back down into molten cast iron and aluminum alloy. At that point nuclear fission can occur and it dynos at 4.5 Million horsepower and caused a lunar riptide leading to a cat 5 hurricane.
Go fly a kite pal
Please explain the “increased wear all the time” comment. That makes ZERO sense. Yes it could decrease your heat...and engine warmup, but on the EB motors that really isn’t an issue because of the nature of Turbos.
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The “increased wear all the time” makes zero sense, all it does is open up the coolant system earlier to keep the engine temps down. Trade off is it takes longer to warm up in the winter. Not a big deal because of the turbos. Guys with f150s are seeing temps below 185/190 on long drives and hauls compared to 200/210+
Engine temps down = more power, safer. It is specifically tuned for in my tunes so the fans come on sooner. Maybe you should get an ecoboost before giving misinformation out about a vehicle you don’t drive?
As most of you already understand, especially if you’ve ever had a thermostat stick open, the most obvious roll of the thermostat is to restrict coolant flow to the radiator so the engine warms up faster. This is an especially important job, since vital engine parts such as bearings and rings suffer the most wear and tear when operating at colder temperatures. A warm engine (meaning at its optimum operating temperature) is a happy engine, with very little friction-related wear and tear occurring.
Limiting wear isn’t necessarily a big concern with a race engine, though, since the expectation is for a short service life anyway.
My ECU is custom tuned to this new thermostat so all the other variables that are in play with how the thermostat works are all the calibrated to this specific t stat. Lower temps on these trucks is a must bc there is just too much heat soak involved. I have 38 PIDs that are calibrated specifically for my truck and the upgrades I have done and now have 17 revisions on my 93 perf tune. Idc what you think about how this truck operates compared to your 2011 or what you claim to know about excessive wear on an engine that youve never driven. There are countless gen1 and now even the new gen2 ecoboost 2.7s and 3.5s that are running 170 t stats in them with zero problems. I have yet to see any problems mentioned about the thermostats other than issues with o ring sealing after reinstall which has already been remedied. So if all you are gonna do is run your mouth about a product that is for a vehicle you don’t own and you have no clue how it works, I’d appreciate it if you’d keep your mouth shut unless you have anything useful to say.If your engine is designed to run at, for example, 200F and the tstat prevents the vehicle from ever reaching that temp, it's no different than the excess wear that occurs when letting your car idle in the driveway on those winter mornings or running a tstat that is stuck open. Your engine isn't going to run more efficiently below it's designed temp; it's going to run less efficiently. You're going to experience increased wear to rings/bearings, longer warmup times, increased fuel consumption, higher emissions and, potentially, issues with heater performance as well. All of that said - and as I said in my initial post - if you're driving it so hard that the engine runs in the as-designed range most of the time in spite of the low-temp tstat, then the ill effects aren't really going to apply. You're not getting the benefits you think you are in any case though. It's your truck so do as you wish, but you're chasing a myth.
http://www.superstreetonline.com/how-to/engine/impp-1001-colder-thermostat-increase-power/
http://www.superstreetonline.com/how-to/aftermarket-parts/1308-low-temp-thermostats
Apparently, limiting wear isn't a big concern to you either. So be it. Again, it's your truck so do as you wish. You posted it in a public form though, so expect that someone is going to present the other side of the coin so that some unsuspecting guy/gal doesn't follow suit without knowing the consequences.
CongratulationsI was at my Ford dealer picking up parts for work asked about swapping in a 170 * thermostat he said it would void the 8 year 80,000 mile emissions warranty. Something about the cats too not sure it was loud at the service desk
I was at my Ford dealer picking up parts for work asked about swapping in a 170 * thermostat he said it would void the 8 year 80,000 mile emissions warranty. Something about the cats too not sure it was loud at the service desk
The Cat temp is based on exhaust temp. The engine coolant will not in anyway prevent the Cat’s from getting to temp. Our Turbo’s are HOT, and far exceed the temp needed to get to the operating range of the catalyst in the Cats. I could break the Chemistry down, but it isn’t needed. The amount of miss information that comes from the Average Ford Service manager is amazing. You also can’t swap the bulbs out to HID, or LED. [emoji23][emoji1787][emoji2359]
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