Ford "The works" package and Ford Service Pricing

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The dealer I bought from a Chevy, GMC, Buick dealer offers a lifetime power train warranty on all their used vehicles. Built somewhere in the price I am sure or they expect most to come to them for service though not required.
But I got the truck for a good deal compared to everywhere else.
I hate not doing my own work but if there is an issue down the road not a huge deal.
So a few oil changes and the fact that scheduled maintenance is 60k, 90k, and 110k I think it is not a huge cost.
I can buy oil and a filter for $30 so I am spending about 20 more an oil change but they rotate the tires too which is well worth the $20 alone with 33” E load tires.

As for oil I too am sure Motorcraft is someone else’s oils but at $18 a 5 quart jug it gets the job done at a great price.
I change oil at 5k there is absolutely no reason to run full synthetic.
I do in my Tototas because they claim it is required.
 

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Ford service pricing is the most ridiculous pricing I have ever seen.

They wanted $450+ for a 60k service that only included oil and filter change, brake fluid, coolant, and transmission flush, and air filter swap. Everything else was inspect and report.
 

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For the 5.4L 3v Expedition, synthetic oil is indeed a "must" item because it will flow much better in cold temps (especially at startup) and won't create any sludge. It will also remove sludge left behind by dino oils...

With how picky those engines are oil pressure wise and how easy they can clog up with sludge, this is a very good and relatively cheap insurance. When it goes on sale, full synthetic is comparable to the regular price of dino oil. It's a no brainer for me.

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Well I had my brakes done at Monroe Muffler for $100 less, done in less than an hour. Lifetime ceramic pads which Ford didn't even offer. New rotors too. I asked about machining and they said the time resurfacing it would offset the cost of new that could be installed quickly. They actually said I could have gone a few more months before replacement but if do get the job offer I expect, I'll be moving back to Florida soon and didn't want to tow & worry about the rear brakes.

Now that Ford's oil change package is no longer competitive I will go elsewhere. I keep detailed records and receipts anyway for warranty claims and the next owner.
 

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You can't compare OEM brake parts with the stuff Monroe Muffler's kids install. They are quite different. Buy the ones that work for you. You get what you pay for.
 

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You can't compare OEM brake parts with the stuff Monroe Muffler's kids install. They are quite different. Buy the ones that work for you. You get what you pay for.

I agree. Brakes need to fit the application (use). When I was using semi-metallic pads on my old Explorer, I kept changing the brakes every 2 years, as there were lots of stops where I lived. The pads would typically chew up the rotors too, so those needed changing as well every 2 years... PITA!

When I switched to quality ceramic pads (Bendix, etc), they would last 2-3x longer and they would not warp / damage the rotors. The rotors would last as long as it took them to rust beyond usability. I was amazed how well those ceramic pads worked for me and that they actually cost less than semi-metallic in the end, as they would last 5 years + save the rotors.

They say ceramic pads are worse than semi-metallic when it's cold, but you get used to it quickly I guess, as I never had a problem with braking response in our near-arctic winters... now I'm a believer and won't buy anything else for my use.

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I opted out of that cheap metallic crap too. Hate to admit, it took me decades to learn.

Scrapping rotors every two years, washing rust off wheels every week... Now I actually buy the OEM ceramic ones or Hawk. I use name brand Bendix, etc, in the kids' cars. OEM's probably a little over-priced, but those parts-store-chain metallic ones were a nightmare.
 

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I asked about machining and they said the time resurfacing it would offset the cost of new that could be installed quickly.

Say, what?
$20 to have a set of rotors turned around here.
 

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The other benefit of ceramic pads is that they are so damn quiet... I actually forgot what it's like to have the constant squeal of the metallic pads.

I submit that ceramic pads are also safer for that reason, because if you start hearing ANY noise with those, that means something is really wrong with your brakes and needs inspecting.

With metallic pads most people will just say "that sounds normal, my brakes always make noise" and just keep on driving till the caliper literally falls off. Happened to someone in my family, lol... luckily it was near my place and I ended up fixing it for them (new caliper, new ceramic pads). I'm still baffled by it: the caliper was literally cut through by the rotor!

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