Expy for off-roading?

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shane_th_ee

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First, as everyone has already said, for forest service and logging roads, you'd be more than fine with tires, skid plates and maybe sliders. If you're willing to argue with your dealer for tires, you can drive a 4th gen FX4 right out of the showroom and get everything but the sliders, including the fancy rear differential. Ok, there's a couple of skid plates that are a little weak compared to the raptor, but those are bolt on upgrades, provided you get the FX4. etc.

That said, if you're considering trails then geography matters. Here in the PNW we have lots of big trees, so width and length start to become problematic with an Expedition. Now, if you're in the southwestern deserts, that's not going to pose much of a problem at all. And no matter where you are, you're going to start wanting better approach and departure angles, winch mounts, etc, etc. And that's where the lack aftermarket parts support makes the Expedition a poor choice. The sleeper in this class in the 2015+ Nissan Armada* which is an Americanized version of the Nissan Y82 Patrol. And the Patrol is Nissan's long-lived competitor to the Land Cruiser. And the Patrol has far more aftermarket support than the Expedition, albeit to support the global market. So if you're willing to go mining ebay and the like for overseas parts you can find pretty much whatever goodies you'd like...

*Ok, the real sleeper is the current generation Infinity QX80 (fancy version of the Armada/Patrol) with the trick hydraulic body motion control system.
 

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First, as everyone has already said, for forest service and logging roads, you'd be more than fine with tires, skid plates and maybe sliders. If you're willing to argue with your dealer for tires, you can drive a 4th gen FX4 right out of the showroom and get everything but the sliders, including the fancy rear differential. Ok, there's a couple of skid plates that are a little weak compared to the raptor, but those are bolt on upgrades, provided you get the FX4. etc.

That said, if you're considering trails then geography matters. Here in the PNW we have lots of big trees, so width and length start to become problematic with an Expedition. Now, if you're in the southwestern deserts, that's not going to pose much of a problem at all. And no matter where you are, you're going to start wanting better approach and departure angles, winch mounts, etc, etc. And that's where the lack aftermarket parts support makes the Expedition a poor choice. The sleeper in this class in the 2015+ Nissan Armada* which is an Americanized version of the Nissan Y82 Patrol. And the Patrol is Nissan's long-lived competitor to the Land Cruiser. And the Patrol has far more aftermarket support than the Expedition, albeit to support the global market. So if you're willing to go mining ebay and the like for overseas parts you can find pretty much whatever goodies you'd like...

*Ok, the real sleeper is the current generation Infinity QX80 (fancy version of the Armada/Patrol) with the trick hydraulic body motion control system.

Yeah it’s surprising/interesting that the expy (or at least Navi) doesn’t have adjustable height suspension. Pretty common now. Even Volvo’s have it.
 

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Yeah it’s surprising/interesting that the expy (or at least Navi) doesn’t have adjustable height suspension. Pretty common now. Even Volvo’s have it.

Expeditions had air suspension optional until around 2010.....but I think it only adjusted height when you were getting in or out. It would also level the rear when towing. A family friend had a 2006 Navigator that did all that jazz.
 
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Well, thanks everyone.

I was curious to see if anyone among a group of enthusiasts was going to come up with something like "no, chassis parts x, y and z have proven to be insufficient for this use", or "no, the transmissions aren't built for that kind of driving". But, no. Nice to see confirmation people have in fact done many miles of off-roading with these just fine.

And since I really like these vehicles, I'm thinking this is going to be my next little project - the off-road Expy. Maybe this board will be kind enough to hep me out from time to time.
 

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I've driven both the 1st Generation and the 3rd Generation trucks off road for work as a railroad trainmaster. I didn't own the trucks and they were considered emergency vehicles so I drove them wherever I needed to respond without too much consideration for their - er - well being.

I never got stuck with either truck in logging over 250,000 miles. I found the 1st Generation trucks much more nimble,responsive, a lot faster and more fun to drive off road. But both did the job wonderfully and other than flattening a dozen cheap government-bought tires, I never broke anything.

The only modifications on the trucks were Ford skid plates and the running boards removed.
 

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"1st gens came with skid plates."

My 2002 doesn't have skid plates. I bought it used in 2005 but I doubt they were removed, but it's possible I guess.
 

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My 2018 lifted on 35’s does great for what you are planning. The only thing I’m investigating now is diff and tranny breather extensions. I end up fording some fairly deep creeks and once got a 4wd notice on the dash which went away fairly quickly. Fords mention of depth of fording is basically bottom of wheel hubs. That’s not very deep.
Throw in a full size inflatable mattress and voila, you’re set.


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