To be honest, I don't like any of the modern offerings. I'd much rather have the column or floor shifter over the push buttons on the GM or the dial shifter on the Fords. The column or floor shifter is easy and intuitive for anyone to find and use. If you are parallel parking or backing into a parking spot, I don't want to have to fuss with "new and cool".
My wife does like the power folding seats on her '08 Explorer while I like the mechanical seats on my '02 Tahoe. I can remove the 3rd row seats entirely leaving a solid floor with the exception of the 2nd row seat. I currently have a cargo liner that can remain in the truck regardless of whether I have the 3rd row installed or not. It would not be practical to have a cargo liner if you have power folding seats. I don't see how you can have an effective full cargo liner with power folding 3rd row seats. (I admit that my cargo liner won't cover the 2nd row seat area, but the coverage up to the 2nd row is usually enough.)
The buttons and knobs on the older Chevy's and Fords are quick and easy to learn and use. They do anything I need and want. These new touch screens in the center console take up too much real estate space in the dash board. All I need for the back up camera is a screen built into the rear view camera:
https://www.mastertailgaters.com/collections/rear-view-mirrors-with-lcd
I really do not like having radio and HVAC controls embedded into the touch screen as is the trend. One plus for the Expedition is that the HVAC controls, as far as I know, are still physical buttons.
Personally, I'm still on the fence between GM's DFM (dynamic fuel management) vs Ford's Ecoboost. The Ecoboost would be far more complex to fix IF something goes wrong. It does seem that Ford has solved the carbon issue though, and GM's DFM has become equally less problematic. GM's 6.2 or 5.3, remaining a pushrod engine, would be easier to work on. I like keeping cars/trucks going for a long time. Sooner or later, some engine work will have to be done on either vehicle. Would I rather fix an Ecoboost or DFM? Don't know yet. I'll admit, I do like the performance of the new drive trains over my old 5.3. My favourite so far is my 08 Explorer with the 4.6L + 6 speed transmission.
As for towing capabilities between the Expedition vs Suburban, a number you really need to pay attention to is the GCWR because you have to consider all the people and stuff you are packing along with the trailer. The towing ratings can be misleading. The GCWR of a 2020 Suburban can be up to 14,000. The GCWR of an Expedition can be up to 15,500 lbs which is slightly higher. After you subtract the weight of each vehicle you get 8000 lbs for the Suburban which includes the trailer PLUS you and your gear. You get 9000 lbs for the equivalent expedition. The 1000 lb difference is not a whole lot. GM used to offer a heavy duty Suburban 2500 that had a GCWR of 16000 lbs. Now THAT made a difference. The trailer rating wasn't much more, but you could add a lot more to the back of your truck as well and still be below the GCWR. Alas, it is not offered anymore.
Right now though, I'm fed up with all the extra distracting electronic "cool" stuff going into cars and trucks. They are becoming more "cool", but in my opinion, less useful and practical in many ways.
My wife does like the power folding seats on her '08 Explorer while I like the mechanical seats on my '02 Tahoe. I can remove the 3rd row seats entirely leaving a solid floor with the exception of the 2nd row seat. I currently have a cargo liner that can remain in the truck regardless of whether I have the 3rd row installed or not. It would not be practical to have a cargo liner if you have power folding seats. I don't see how you can have an effective full cargo liner with power folding 3rd row seats. (I admit that my cargo liner won't cover the 2nd row seat area, but the coverage up to the 2nd row is usually enough.)
The buttons and knobs on the older Chevy's and Fords are quick and easy to learn and use. They do anything I need and want. These new touch screens in the center console take up too much real estate space in the dash board. All I need for the back up camera is a screen built into the rear view camera:
https://www.mastertailgaters.com/collections/rear-view-mirrors-with-lcd
I really do not like having radio and HVAC controls embedded into the touch screen as is the trend. One plus for the Expedition is that the HVAC controls, as far as I know, are still physical buttons.
Personally, I'm still on the fence between GM's DFM (dynamic fuel management) vs Ford's Ecoboost. The Ecoboost would be far more complex to fix IF something goes wrong. It does seem that Ford has solved the carbon issue though, and GM's DFM has become equally less problematic. GM's 6.2 or 5.3, remaining a pushrod engine, would be easier to work on. I like keeping cars/trucks going for a long time. Sooner or later, some engine work will have to be done on either vehicle. Would I rather fix an Ecoboost or DFM? Don't know yet. I'll admit, I do like the performance of the new drive trains over my old 5.3. My favourite so far is my 08 Explorer with the 4.6L + 6 speed transmission.
As for towing capabilities between the Expedition vs Suburban, a number you really need to pay attention to is the GCWR because you have to consider all the people and stuff you are packing along with the trailer. The towing ratings can be misleading. The GCWR of a 2020 Suburban can be up to 14,000. The GCWR of an Expedition can be up to 15,500 lbs which is slightly higher. After you subtract the weight of each vehicle you get 8000 lbs for the Suburban which includes the trailer PLUS you and your gear. You get 9000 lbs for the equivalent expedition. The 1000 lb difference is not a whole lot. GM used to offer a heavy duty Suburban 2500 that had a GCWR of 16000 lbs. Now THAT made a difference. The trailer rating wasn't much more, but you could add a lot more to the back of your truck as well and still be below the GCWR. Alas, it is not offered anymore.
Right now though, I'm fed up with all the extra distracting electronic "cool" stuff going into cars and trucks. They are becoming more "cool", but in my opinion, less useful and practical in many ways.
