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I'm saying I don't think it is the spring itself, they don't sag for many years.


Springs will settle after a short while, its called taking a set. After that they will very slowly sag over the course of time.

This is just the nature of springs, and that's also why when engineering something where the spring is critical you have to take that into account. You also have the ability of having the manufacturer "set" your springs for you, then you wont see that drop because the manufacturer "broke them in" basically.

Crack open an engineering book, or contact Lee Spring if you really don't believe me.
 

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Springs will settle after a short while, its called taking a set. After that they will very slowly sag over the course of time.

This is just the nature of springs, and that's also why when engineering something where the spring is critical you have to take that into account. You also have the ability of having the manufacturer "set" your springs for you, then you wont see that drop because the manufacturer "broke them in" basically.

Crack open an engineering book, or contact Lee Spring if you really don't believe me.
I could be wrong, I was actually wrong once back in the early nineties.
 

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I'm saying I don't think it is the spring itself, they don't sag for many years.

Another wise guy on the forum............
Don't you have some welding to do or something? I know about springs, they don't settle for years, there is another reason some seem to be settling.

I'm not convinced they actually dropped. I put many springs in and never saw any "drop". Maybe they weren't seated fully or they just had wishful thinking and imagined it.........IDK

I could be wrong, I was actually wrong once back in the early nineties.

I'm not singling you out, I've been looking up a lot of stuff for my own personal use, with regards to springs and whatnot for these rides, and these quotes of yours that I copied....they are testimonial to why nobody should pay any attention to your advice.

You have NEVER changed springs on a vehicle. Or else you'd never utter or type the lines "springs don't settle".

Again, I'm NOT singling you out in particular. That said, I've changed springs on many a car, truck, Jeep, and a few things you have never heard of or seen in person. ALL BUT ONE settled an inch or so in a month's time or less. The one exception: I did a spring swap for a friend using customer-supplied springs on a Mustang notch. Later it was revealed the springs were for a convertible GT, which is several hundred pounds heavier than an LX coupe. That car never did come down until he brought it back to me and I helped him pick out a spring set. All things being equal, the car was an inch and half lower with the new springs, then settled another 3/4 inch a bit later. Required the install of a bumpsteer kit, which is why it was again in my shop.

Please, quit giving advice if you don't know Jack Schitt, He's a busy man these days..
 

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I'm not singling you out, I've been looking up a lot of stuff for my own personal use, with regards to springs and whatnot for these rides, and these quotes of yours that I copied....they are testimonial to why nobody should pay any attention to your advice.

You have NEVER changed springs on a vehicle. Or else you'd never utter or type the lines "springs don't settle".

Again, I'm NOT singling you out in particular. That said, I've changed springs on many a car, truck, Jeep, and a few things you have never heard of or seen in person. ALL BUT ONE settled an inch or so in a month's time or less. The one exception: I did a spring swap for a friend using customer-supplied springs on a Mustang notch. Later it was revealed the springs were for a convertible GT, which is several hundred pounds heavier than an LX coupe. That car never did come down until he brought it back to me and I helped him pick out a spring set. All things being equal, the car was an inch and half lower with the new springs, then settled another 3/4 inch a bit later. Required the install of a bumpsteer kit, which is why it was again in my shop.

Please, quit giving advice if you don't know Jack Schitt, He's a busy man these days..[/QUOTE)
Oh yer' back with all your negativity and your foul mouth, you won't last long in here, go back on the farm. I said they will settle over a period of years also.
 

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Learn how to quote a post you old grump.

Leave the advice giving to those who have been there, done that, and know how to go back and kick ass again.
That ain't negativity, it's fact.
Sorry that I don't have the ability to be tactful....most places/people this day and age are more concerned with how things are said rather than the truthfulness of what is said.

You said springs don't settle. Several people gave you rebuttals. You continued to argue. I spoke up, gave an example.

You gonna send me "back to the farm"? My vacation is about over anyway, so...

You're not a mod. Ignore me and go polish your puddle lamps and fix your shifter interlock...
 

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Springs will settle after a short while, its called taking a set. After that they will very slowly sag over the course of time.

This is just the nature of springs, and that's also why when engineering something where the spring is critical you have to take that into account. You also have the ability of having the manufacturer "set" your springs for you, then you wont see that drop because the manufacturer "broke them in" basically.

Crack open an engineering book, or contact Lee Spring if you really don't believe me.
Maybe very little at first but not enough to make a substantial difference. I know they will over a period of years and I have put a LOT of springs in.
 

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Learn how to quote a post you old grump.

Leave the advice giving to those who have been there, done that, and know how to go back and kick ass again.
That ain't negativity, it's fact.
Sorry that I don't have the ability to be tactful....most places/people this day and age are more concerned with how things are said rather than the truthfulness of what is said.

You said springs don't settle. Several people gave you rebuttals. You continued to argue. I spoke up, gave an example.

You gonna send me "back to the farm"? My vacation is about over anyway, so...

You're not a mod. Ignore me and go polish your puddle lamps and fix your shifter interlock...
More negativity from you.
 

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Maybe very little at first but not enough to make a substantial difference. I know they will over a period of years and I have put a LOT of springs in.

In case you didn't notice, hoss, you're the only here that says that. Several others have all said they have seen it as well as myself.

"more nonsense from you". Pffft.
 

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