My Black Beast went over on its side in the snow, new Expy time please read.

tommyddsr · Feb 11, 2021

Owned my 2000 Expy for 15 years and other than a torque convertor issue I had no problems. My brother in law owns it now and still no problems. Great vehicle. I changed the plugs myself with no issues at 100K. Now I own a 2009. Had it for a year, no issues (knock on wood). Did research and 2009 gets you away from plug and cam phaser issues. Love my Expy EL and would definitely do it again.

ONEBADMK8 · Feb 11, 2021

OK now who has a nice 09 for sale lol?

vincentrose · Feb 11, 2021

Steer clear of 2005 - 2008, those years have the 2 piece spark plug. Should be ok with a 2009 or newer

Thunderbirdsport · Feb 11, 2021

Get some SP509, Motorcraft brand.
They're NOT the old 2 piece style.

Boom. Done.

mnachreiner86 · Feb 11, 2021

Thunderbirdsport said:
Get some SP509, Motorcraft brand.
They're NOT the old 2 piece style.

Boom. Done.

This. The plugs have been updated to a one piece design and maybe have been changed already. The design change from Ford took place mid 08, with brown COPs being indicative of the new one piece design. Just like the 2Vs that had horror stories of plugs blowing out because they only had a few threads newer plug designs remedied them. To the previous post about reliability I’m sure there are bad examples of them. I’ve generally had very good luck with FoMo products, owned lots of them and that’s why I keep coming back. Alternatively compared to similar vehicles from the same vintage Id definitely take the Ford. No make or model is without their issues and it’s a used vehicle with lots of miles. It’s always a gamble. Snd drive it again and see how it feels. Good luck, I hope you find the one you’re looking for!

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Thunderbirdsport · Feb 11, 2021

Yeah, was gonna say...I'm not sure one can even GET the old two piece plugs anymore....unless there's a stash of NOW parts that someone didn't do an inventory update on....

sjwelds · Feb 11, 2021

And btw I think all 5.4L engines were troubled with timing issues, not just the earlier ones.

07navi · Feb 11, 2021

They all have their set of problems. My 5.4 purrs like a kitten.

Kevin-Michigan · Feb 12, 2021

My 2007 XLT was very reliable In the 13 years I owned it. Had to get it towed only once due to a fuel pump failure. The 2 piece plugs lasted until I finally had Ford dealer replace them at 145k miles and was running fine until then, although I replaced the coil packs myself earlier. Rusted out rocker panels are likely an issue if the cars in the rust belt. Good idea to replace the teflon t-fitting for the coolant line on the passenger side with a brass fitting. Easy do it yourself upgrade to avoid a coolant leak on the road. My teflon fitting cracked twice over the years.

07navi · Feb 12, 2021

Kevin-Michigan said:
My 2007 XLT was very reliable In the 13 years I owned it. Had to get it towed only once due to a fuel pump failure. The 2 piece plugs lasted until I finally had Ford dealer replace them at 145k miles and was running fine until then, although I replaced the coil packs myself earlier. Rusted out rocker panels are likely an issue if the cars in the rust belt. Good idea to replace the teflon t-fitting for the coolant line on the passenger side with a brass fitting. Easy do it yourself upgrade to avoid a coolant leak on the road. My teflon fitting cracked twice over the years.

And you probably waited until the fuel pump totally quit ......just sayin'

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