shane_th_ee
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To be fair, the Expedition's ground clearance, approach, departure and break-over angles and poor water fording depth are all going to limit the Expedition off road long before the limits of the eLSD.
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No doubt about it. I wish someone made a little bigger lift. Then you could really get places.
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wakeboarder
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Is there any indication that the eSLD is engaging if you don’t have it locked? Possibly the off road screen? I have a 2wd w/ HD tow, so I don’t have a lock button.
Most AWD vehicles aren’t truly 4x4 like the Expeditions and Suburbans are. The Pilots, Explorer, and Traverse for example have a PTU and can only send 25% or so to the rear wheels. Expeditions and all half tons have a transfer case, about 3-4 times the size of a PTU and chain/clutch driven with fat driveshafts. Usually 4x4 is a true indication of full 50/50 split capacity, AWD often isn’t and “half assed” if you will. It can get murky though, Subaru has a decent setup. Transfer cases are big and bulky, you really need a truck and some higher clearance to get real 4x4 in most cases. Again there are a few exceptions though.
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Calidad
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My Subaru CVT was hugely disappointing compared to my prior manual Subaru hence why I won’t own another Subaru as long as they are CVT. Subaru cuts power in a pretty aggressive way to prevent wheel spin with the CVT. 10 years stuck a few times in the ski resort parking lot till I removed snow from the tires so it would move
Yep, 4x4 like the Expedition has will always beat AWD by rule of thumb. It’s so much more useful to get 50/50 split via a bulky and locked in transfer case. No overheating clutch packs, no slippage, yada yada.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.caranddriver.com/features/amp27630736/awd-vs-4wd/
“Here's a comparative analogy for understanding the similarities and differences between all-wheel drive (AWD) and four-wheel drive (4WD): Miller Lite is to tequila as all-wheel drive is to four-wheel drive. Both are means to an end, but while beer and all-wheel drive are acceptable for everyday use (never at the same time, of course), tequila and four-wheel drive should be reserved for special occasions, when you need something stronger.”
“Here's a comparative analogy for understanding the similarities and differences between all-wheel drive (AWD) and four-wheel drive (4WD): Miller Lite is to tequila as all-wheel drive is to four-wheel drive. Both are means to an end, but while beer and all-wheel drive are acceptable for everyday use (never at the same time, of course), tequila and four-wheel drive should be reserved for special occasions, when you need something stronger.”
We just had 8" of snow in Austin TX and below freezing temps for almost a week. Now plows meant roads were not cleared quickly. I live at the top of a hill and 4H (deep snow mode on Navigator) allowed me to climb the hill easily. I only had trouble going down hill once when it was very icy. I didn't try hill descent mode because I didn't think of it. I am not sure if it would have helped or hurt that situation. Overall, I was very impressed with the performance.
I do have the HD tow package with the eLSD.
I actually got 4WD and HD trow package for towing my boat. It sure came in handy this week for the snow.,
I do have the HD tow package with the eLSD.
I actually got 4WD and HD trow package for towing my boat. It sure came in handy this week for the snow.,
Expedition Dave
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After reading all of this, I really miss my first (1 of 5) "dumb" solid axle 1997 4x4 Expedition XLT with 2/AWD/4hi/4low... My first 4x4, first SUV, and first real off-roading.
I'll post some pics one day, but factory it was the tallest one ever produced with real metal bumpers, I think.
I'll post some pics one day, but factory it was the tallest one ever produced with real metal bumpers, I think.
carymccarr
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I have found that the most extreme setting (mud/ruts where you have to put navigator into neutral to engage) generally works less well than deep snow mode in, well, deep snow. There’s a whole bunch of programming and processing magic that happens in snow mode where as the more hardcore mode seems to try and use brute power which isn’t always best.
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