Interior noise from exhaust

No, Mr. Sticker, this isn't a debate about Mr. Trump here. The ANC and fake engine noise is, from what I read, quite a real part of these Ecoboost cars and trucks. The noise cancelling is one thing, but it certainly appears that additional lower frequency sounds are added "to the experience" to enhance what the customer expects to hear.

Research some of the ANC or Fake Engine Noise in reference to Mustangs and you'll read more about this "high performance sound". The degree to which the Expedition's male enhancement is enriched vs the F-150 or Mustang is questionable. I don't know if they are all the same or if different car lines have different levels of the added noise.

The only way to find out for sure is to disable the stuff in an Expedition and listen to how it behaves. I would certainly try it, but I don't have an Econoboost. You don't either, so it may be awhile before we know for certain.

You can believe this or not; I have no first hand knowledge myself. But I've read enough though credible sources to be convinced that there is some "performance enhancing sound" added to these cabins.

While we may be miles apart on politics, Mr. Sticker, I have nothing but respect for you, your views and your automotive logic. Nothing derogatory intended at all my upstate friend.

Consider this article. Though six years old, it shows that Ford juices the Ecoboost sound:

Sorry guys, I did not mean to start a skirmish. I just want a quiet car inside when I want it quiet. I read of this several times after I noticed what seemed like an odd sounding exhaust while test driving a few Expys, including the platinum level. After all day behind the wheel trying to not hear road noise, tire noise, wind noise is tiring and prefer not to add more to the discomfort. Short trips are no issue. But this should not be happening on a freeway cruiser. Ford’s flagship vehicle should be very comfortable, and this should be able to be switched off, imho.

One of the links I posted shows how to add a switch for turning it off. You can also disable it with Forscan programming. Then you can judge if the "droning" some complain about is enhanced by the fake noise.

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So to begin with you have 2 references from home hobbyists who "think they know what they are doing". Unlikely they do and if you read the entire posts its fairly obvious they dont. So you are propagating disinformation. In the echo chamber, the more times you hear the same thing... the more "it must be true, since I've heard it so many times".

The other reference is ANC. Active Noise Cancellation. Do you know the difference between ANC & fake created engine noise? World of difference. Even in the other posts, the pinout is labelled ANC. Fake News.

Besides - THIS IS A FORD EXPEDITION FORUM and you're propagating the urban myth about Ford F-150's. Go to a Ford Pickup Forum and post that, not here would be my suggestion. Not that you care much about my suggestions.

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Good grief...who went teetee in your cheerios? Calm down, we're all friends here.

Amplified engine sounds are not something manufacturers like to crow about; "our engine sounds like crap so we had to whip up some sorcery to make it sound better". But, as many including yourself have noted, many manufacturers do it.

As far as confirmation that it's on the Expi, let's start with this quote from a Ford Engineer:

Autoblog spoke with Ford engineer Shawn Carney who confirmed that only the turbocharged four-cylinder Mustang comes with this system, called Active Noise Control.
In fact, Carney is partially responsible for tuning and shaping the EcoBoost's note in the Mustang, and he said the setup serves two distinct functions. First, it cancels out some of the coarse noise as part of the 'Stang's refinement strategy.
It also allows Ford to enhance things by "layering in certain sound characteristics on top of what's already there," he said. To determine the right mix, the engine processor monitors torque output and changes things accordingly. "The intent is to be a natural experience," said Carney.

So a Ford engineer is introducing us to "Active Noise Control", albeit in regards to the 2015 Mustang in that context.

Then we'll move on to this quote from Dave Periciak, Chief Mustang Engineer (again, regarding that same mustang):

With the Ecoboost engine we have both active noise cancellation, and we also amplify the existing engine sound order. We don't create an artificial sound, we don't pluck one off the shelf, we bring in the real sound, process it, and play it through the car's speakers. Today's V6 sounds fantastic, and although the Ecoboost won't sound like a V8, it won't sound like it doesn't belong in a Mustang either.

So now we have an engineer confirming the Mustang has Active Noise Control, which allows them to amplify the engine noise, and the Mustang Chief Engineer confirming they absolutely amplify the engine noise.

And finally, let's go to the Expedition page on Ford's website: If you head to the "Models and Specs" portion of that page, tootle down to the "Interior Features" section, and look at the last entry, you'll see it says "Enhanced Active Noise Control".

Is it on all trim levels? I think so, but I can't confirm it. Is it on the Platinum trim? Sure is. Do I care if you believe it? Absolutely not. Whether or not you believe it is akin to whether or not you believe the Earth is round...your opinion doesn't change the truth of the thing.

I'm glad you are a member here to spur discussion, but we can all try to be nice when we're doing it. We're all just here to learn more about our vehicles. Have a coke and a smile.

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Talk about handling the truth. lol

i heard the sound coming from the back inside, not much middle and none in the front and did not sound like it was coming from out of the exhaust pipe. It just seemed odd at the low RPMs I was cruising at. Perhaps setting the speakers to only front may be a quick test? Or maybe not..

Some people pay good money to hear that exhaust, lol

Wow. I'm usually only beaten up for telling the truth by my wife.

Thank you aggiegrad. I'm working on being nice to the deniers of fact. Lot's of them these days it seems.

If you wire a set of headphones to the radio output, you should hear the FAKE ENGINE NOISE.

Trainmaster said:

Wow. I'm usually only beaten up for telling the truth by my wife.

Thank you aggiegrad. I'm working on being nice to the deniers of fact. Lot's of them these days it seems.

If you wire a set of headphones to the radio output, you should hear the FAKE ENGINE NOISE.

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There is no disagreeing with some. You must remember they have years of experience and tons of knowledge. They are easily identifiable by their condescending replies that are mostly based on opinion and not practical application. Heck I would venture that most of these self important "experts" are unable to drive anything with a 4 speed. Sorry I should clarify, manual transmission. lol