Stealth vs Stealth Performance

LokiWolf · Jan 14, 2022

ddakoske said:
From the preliminary tech sheet provided by Ford. King Ranch, Limited and Platinum will share 400hp.

Horsepower (XL, XLT, STX) 380 @ 5,000 rpm, 87 Octane 380 @ 5,000 rpm, 87 Octane
Torque (XL, XLT, STX) 470 lb.-ft. @ 2,250 rpm 470 lb.-ft. @ 2,250 rpm
Horsepower (LIMITED, KR, PLATINUM) 400 @ 5,000 rpm, 93 Octane 400 @ 5,000 rpm, 93 Octane
Torque (LIMITED, KR, PLATINUM) 480 lb.-ft. @ 2,250 rpm 480 lb.-ft. @ 2,250 rpm
Horsepower (TIMBERLINE, STEALTH) 440 @ 5,000 rpm, 93 Octane 440 @ 5,000 rpm, 93 Octane
Torque (TIMBERLINE, STEALTH) 510 lb.-ft. @ 2,250 rpm 510 lb.-ft. @ 2,250 rpm

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiW76XuyLH1AhXuITQIHUaGDugQFnoECAcQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fmedia.ford.com%2Fcontent%2Ffordmedia%2Ffna%2Fus%2Fen%2Fasset.download.document.pdf.html%2Fcontent%2Fdam%2Ffordmedia%2FNorth%2520America%2FUS%2Fproduct%2F2022%2Fexpedition%2Fpdf%2F22Expedition-Tech-Specs.pdf&usg=AOvVaw3cn17GmncoqGyuuOsFOSYV

Yeah, the Octane next to the power concerns me...because of 2 things.

1) Ford does all of its power ratings on all of its vehicles using a standard. That Fuel(Notice I did not say gas) has an Octane rating of 92
2) If they did indeed rate the lower models on 87, then that means they basically get the same HP and probably more torque than the middle models on 93 based on documented data of the power differences(Stock) of the 2nd gen 3.5 on 87 vs 93.

Also for clarity, and the 380 vs 400 is the EXACT same motor, only a factory tune difference.

Drive a Golf · Jan 15, 2022

I hadn't seen that tech sheet before, so thanks for sharing.

Jtsford1 · Jan 16, 2022

I also ordered the 303a package. I'm also pretty sure it has red calipers too. Just not 440hp. I got the dark matter grey. Thinking of changing color though. Not sure if it's too late?

USKflt · Jan 16, 2022

Jtsford1 said:
I also ordered the 303a package. I'm also pretty sure it has red calipers too. Just not 440hp. I got the dark matter grey. Thinking of changing color though. Not sure if it's too late?

Per the order guide I have, red calipers are only on the 304a.

lv2drive · Jan 16, 2022

USKflt said:
Per the order guide I have, red calipers are only on the 304a.

dumb question perhaps but -

are the red calipers actually - you know - performance? or do they have upgraded pads - or upgraded “anything” on the braking system?

or are they just....

red...?

i might be surprised - but something tells me they’re just red so people can tell you ponied up for the 304a

dlcorbett · Jan 16, 2022

I thinknits just appearance. No media material talks about 304 having upgraded brakes.

Polo08816 · Feb 14, 2022

USKflt said:
The only thing that really excited me about the 304A was the HP. I just couldn’t justify $5k after tax for 40 more HP. So we ended up ordering a 303A after much deliberation. I believe the sport tuned CCD is the same between the two per the guide.

Xchief30 said:
They both come with Sport Tuned Suspension. The CCD is an option. Exactly how big of a difference does it make ? I'm mostly combination of city/ highway never off road.

What exactly is the difference between the sport tuned suspension and regular suspension?

Is there an increase in spring rate? Is it just a different in the shock/strut?

Polo08816 · Feb 14, 2022

USKflt said:
The only thing that really excited me about the 304A was the HP. I just couldn’t justify $5k after tax for 40 more HP. So we ended up ordering a 303A after much deliberation. I believe the sport tuned CCD is the same between the two per the guide.

I think the different differential ratio makes a difference as well.

dlcorbett · Feb 14, 2022

Polo08816 said:
What exactly is the difference between the sport tuned suspension and regular suspension?

Is there an increase in spring rate? Is it just a different in the shock/strut?

Noone knows at this moment, if hasn't been made available prior to 22. Just going off my head, it maybe a thicker stabilizer bar, and would feel like the current ccd trucks in sport mode.

MattG · Feb 15, 2022

I'm waiting on the sport tuned suspension detail before I commit to a 2022. Want to know if it will help suspension feel enough to warrant to upcharge. The HP increase is nice and all, but we only run 87 and my wife drives the Expy mostly so the suspension detail will be key in the decision.

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