X Plan-build site issues

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I placed my order on 1/24 and just realized I qualify for X-plan as a Ford shareholder. How likely is it that the my dealer will retroactively add X-plan pricing? And could that impact my place in line for my order in any way (I have not been scheduled)? I wanted to check here before reaching out to the dealer (who has been great to work with) and completing the X-plan paperwork.
Before you call your dealer, get your X-plan "PIN" from Ford, then call them, or better yet, drive down and see the sales manager (only one authorized to submit an X-plan order), have him reconfigure the sales order. Some dealers refused to take the X-plan orders, not certain why, as they still net out a 8% profit, yet still refuse to take them. This should not affect your place in line if the truck has already been scheduled. Mine was placed on the same day, and I received a preliminary schedule date of 5/16/2022 two weeks ago.

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What's the typical difference between x-plan pricing vs costco pricing? Looking at getting the 22 Expedition and these forums enlightened me to the x-plan pricing.
 
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What's the typical difference between x-plan pricing vs costco pricing? Looking at getting the 22 Expedition and these forums enlightened me to the x-plan pricing.
Have no idea what "costco" pricing structure is, you would need to ask them if the discount is off "dealer invoice", or "dealer cost", as the two are not the same.


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Hi Bill - you seem to be the expert here so wanted to ask. I placed an order for a 22 XLT Max on 1/21 with my dealer and they signed a piece of paper saying they’d honor the z plan price (I’m a family member of the retiree and have a code, but cannot access the axz plan site). At the time of order, there wasn’t an estimate available of the z plan price so I wasn’t told a price.

I started being suspicious about the dealer bc they kept telling me the order was placed but the ford marketing center couldn’t find it. Then on 3/1 I got the confirmation email saying the order was confirmed on 3/1…1.5 months after I placed the order. Build date it mid may.

Then I reached out to the dealer yesterday to get the z plan price and he says that the price hasn’t been generated for this invoice…given my past experience I’m worried about getting cheated come delivery time on the price since they’ve not been able to confirm the price.

Any advice? Is this normal dealer behavior or should I be paranoid?

Many thanks!
 
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Hi Bill - you seem to be the expert here so wanted to ask. I placed an order for a 22 XLT Max on 1/21 with my dealer and they signed a piece of paper saying they’d honor the z plan price (I’m a family member of the retiree and have a code, but cannot access the axz plan site). At the time of order, there wasn’t an estimate available of the z plan price so I wasn’t told a price.

I started being suspicious about the dealer bc they kept telling me the order was placed but the ford marketing center couldn’t find it. Then on 3/1 I got the confirmation email saying the order was confirmed on 3/1…1.5 months after I placed the order. Build date it mid may.

Then I reached out to the dealer yesterday to get the z plan price and he says that the price hasn’t been generated for this invoice…given my past experience I’m worried about getting cheated come delivery time on the price since they’ve not been able to confirm the price.

Any advice? Is this normal dealer behavior or should I be paranoid?

Many thanks!
While no expert, when your order was placed, you should have received a printout of the order with "preview order-xxxx-body/chassis code" to the right of that it should read "order summary", to the right of that a "date and time"
Below that should be the "Dealer Name" to the far right of that Sales code "Fxxxxx"

Below that should be your trucks build layout and options.

At the bottom of that you should be able to see a line marked discounts.

Below that you should see A/Z Plan D Plan X Plan

Below each of those is the net estimated price.

Now, all the way at the bottom is a place for a customer signature, and you will see another disclaimer that reads "this is not an invoice" Or you may see "this order has not been submitted to the order bank" (orders are usually placed online once or twice a week, some dealers, depending on their high or low volume for such things, may be different, time wise.

Now, with that said, all prices at this point are an estimate of what the window sticker (once generated) will read. There are disclaimers in the various "plans" verbiage that reads (paraphrasing here) "prices subject to change". Until a window sticker is generated, the pricing structure is up in the air. Sometimes it is in your favor (IE: an option price is lower than originally quoted), sometimes they are not (self explanatory).

If you do not have a copy of the above, then you need to request it....You will of course need to have your Ford generated plan "PIN" before you placed the order, otherwise none of the above is in play, only a dealers promise to sell it for "XXXX".

Again, not an expert, but have some experience with the process as a buyer, not a seller. Pretty much common sense once you can log in to the plan web page and read the terms and conditions, both for you as the qualified buyer, and the seller who took the order.

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Hmm, that's funny. I just sent my dealer an email with the options i wanted and told them I have xplan. They sent me the MSRP, Invoice, Xplan and Aplan price. Your dealer is not being honest.
Id be interested in seeing those different prices if you dont mind sharing. Can message me seperately.
 
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Id be interested in seeing those different prices if you don't mind sharing. Can message me separately.
Plan pricing is for plan members only, earlier on in this thread is a basic breakdown of how the plan discounts works.
Besides, each plan cost is theoretically different, as each build is theoretically different.

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While no expert, when your order was placed, you should have received a printout of the order with "preview order-xxxx-body/chassis code" to the right of that it should read "order summary", to the right of that a "date and time"
Below that should be the "Dealer Name" to the far right of that Sales code "Fxxxxx"

Below that should be your trucks build layout and options.

At the bottom of that you should be able to see a line marked discounts.

Below that you should see A/Z Plan D Plan X Plan

Below each of those is the net estimated price.

Now, all the way at the bottom is a place for a customer signature, and you will see another disclaimer that reads "this is not an invoice" Or you may see "this order has not been submitted to the order bank" (orders are usually placed online once or twice a week, some dealers, depending on their high or low volume for such things, may be different, time wise.

Now, with that said, all prices at this point are an estimate of what the window sticker (once generated) will read. There are disclaimers in the various "plans" verbiage that reads (paraphrasing here) "prices subject to change". Until a window sticker is generated, the pricing structure is up in the air. Sometimes it is in your favor (IE: an option price is lower than originally quoted), sometimes they are not (self explanatory).

If you do not have a copy of the above, then you need to request it....You will of course need to have your Ford generated plan "PIN" before you placed the order, otherwise none of the above is in play, only a dealers promise to sell it for "XXXX".

Again, not an expert, but have some experience with the process as a buyer, not a seller. Pretty much common sense once you can log in to the plan web page and read the terms and conditions, both for you as the qualified buyer, and the seller who took the order.

Bill
Thank you Bill! I do have the preview order summary, but there is no a/x/z/d plan price on it, but the dealer has signed and dated “OK at A/Z plan” on it (no price on it however).

I guess based on your comments, we have to wait until the window sticker is generated to get the z plan price?
 

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Plan pricing is for plan members only, earlier on in this thread is a basic breakdown of how the plan discounts works.
Besides, each plan cost is theoretically different, as each build is theoretically different.

Bill
I have an X-Plan pin. I have not giving it to a dealer yet for pricing, and i have just started looking and was just curious what the savings might be.

Ill find out soon. thank you.
 
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