twinturbodude7
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Sounds like even more of a bargaining chip to me. At least one can hope.
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Unfortunately it isn't a buyer's market right now. The dealer has the power and if you won't buy it they will gladly sell it to someone who will pay MSRP or more for it.
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Wes1
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THIS is the exact same thing I have been thinking.....how "new" are they really going to be? My luck will be that a hail storm will hit the parking lot and dent them all up! I already had on my list of things to check was the mileage when it hits the dealer parking lot. That will be very interesting to see.
Cadet7263
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I agree. I would assume, these will have somewhere around 100 miles on them, when I have seen people buying them with 3 or 4 miles on theirs. They also wouldn't have to worry about battery issues or flat spots on the tires. I am sure when they eventually get to them, Ford will do a "quality" check and send them right to the dealer. If you bring these issues up to the dealers, and say you won't buy it unless they put a new battery and tires on it, and discount it for the miles, they will tell you to go pound sand. They know they will just sell it to someone else new, and they can charge more for it because now they can charge the current price, and not the price you originally ordered it for. Its a joke, mine has been sitting for over 8 weeks now, in the same spot, with that little bit of gas in it they put. If the info is correct I got, it will still be sitting for another 6-7 week at the earliest too. You can't tell me those tires won't have flat spots by then, and they will have to jump each one of those cars to get the battery running again. Oh well, I will make my decision once it comes in sometime later this year I guess. On top of the fact I planned to put a really nice wax job on the truck when I got it, to prevent sun damage in the future. Sun damage like is sitting there happening to it now with absolutely no wax on it.
Bman25
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Think I am downsizing and going to buy a Telluride.
Cadet7263
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I just drove one of those at work, it was very very nice inside. But it definitely has less room in the back behind the third row. If Kia made one bigger, closer to the Expedition Max, I would be gone.
balthisar
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I've got a chip hold, but sitting in a parking lot doesn't bother me. My Mach E sat in a parking lot in Mexico City (Cuautitlan, actually) from the last week of October to the first week of March before it was delivered to me. And yes, they can get winter hail there (I've lived there an experienced it myself).
Ford has hundreds of procedures for things like this, and while the duration is rare, the need to performing rework, delaying certain units, and so on isn't new at all. There's a huge procedure just for selecting storage locations. Another for the actual storage. Procedures for removing from storage. And rework almost never occurs on the assembly line. There are dedicated rework employees that do anything from correcting fuel leaks caught on the line, to troubleshooting non-functioning turn signals.
The first time through rate (units shipped right of the line that are perfect) is never 100% for any manufacturer. There's always something to be corrected, and the product isn't any less new even if someone had to yank out the instrument panel offline in order to replace a diverter door, for example. If you've ever purchased another new cars, there's a non-zero chance that rework was performed at the factory.
Bigger issues ("campaigns") might draft the non-dedicated rework employs to help out. They'll be trained, but usually help out in the non-specialized roles, like moving vehicles, putting them on lifts if necessary, performing checklists, etc. Whoever actually performs the repair will be qualified to perform the repair, no doubt.
As for mileage, your warranty starts with the number on the odometer. You're not really losing anything if there are more than 10 miles on the odometer. I've twice taken delivery of vehicles that had significant miles on them; in both cases there was a note from the factory indicating that they were selected for random testing (there are small versions of test tracks at nearly every auto final assembly factory). The Bonneville and the Mustang both had less than 100 miles on them when delivered.
I'm irritated with the wait, but I have zero doubts that I'm going to get a brand new Expedition that meets all of the criteria for being "brand new" when it's delivered. And I'm picky as hell, because I help build these things for a living.
Ford has hundreds of procedures for things like this, and while the duration is rare, the need to performing rework, delaying certain units, and so on isn't new at all. There's a huge procedure just for selecting storage locations. Another for the actual storage. Procedures for removing from storage. And rework almost never occurs on the assembly line. There are dedicated rework employees that do anything from correcting fuel leaks caught on the line, to troubleshooting non-functioning turn signals.
The first time through rate (units shipped right of the line that are perfect) is never 100% for any manufacturer. There's always something to be corrected, and the product isn't any less new even if someone had to yank out the instrument panel offline in order to replace a diverter door, for example. If you've ever purchased another new cars, there's a non-zero chance that rework was performed at the factory.
Bigger issues ("campaigns") might draft the non-dedicated rework employs to help out. They'll be trained, but usually help out in the non-specialized roles, like moving vehicles, putting them on lifts if necessary, performing checklists, etc. Whoever actually performs the repair will be qualified to perform the repair, no doubt.
As for mileage, your warranty starts with the number on the odometer. You're not really losing anything if there are more than 10 miles on the odometer. I've twice taken delivery of vehicles that had significant miles on them; in both cases there was a note from the factory indicating that they were selected for random testing (there are small versions of test tracks at nearly every auto final assembly factory). The Bonneville and the Mustang both had less than 100 miles on them when delivered.
I'm irritated with the wait, but I have zero doubts that I'm going to get a brand new Expedition that meets all of the criteria for being "brand new" when it's delivered. And I'm picky as hell, because I help build these things for a living.
I called marketing for the first time in a couple weeks today and they finally gave me an updated ETA of 6/5. I’ve been on chip hold since 3/17. My original ETA was 4/7 and this is the first time they’ve changed it, so here’s to hoping.
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