On the RO it shows the steps that were taken and the completion of the bulletin.
Safety Recall 22S36 - Certain 2021 Model Year Expedition and Lincoln Navigator Vehicles - Underhood Fire
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ManUpOrShutUp
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Indeed, they've sold them all. I saw one the other day with fresh temp plates and "Blah blah courtesy loaner" in darker tint where the die cut vinyl lettering had been removed.
5280tunage
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Here's what confuses me a bit about the ford notice and some of the information recently released on the web. From what it looks like, the maintenance procedure effectively involves disconnecting what I can only assume is a ground wire (I only say ground here as for one, it's black with purple trace, but also if it was +, what ever is connected to it would for sure no longer work), and heat shrinking it, apparently due to a bad PCB design. So I ask the question, is this simply that the trace on the PCB can't handle the potential current? Or is it that there's a trace too close to it and they eventually arc? Either way, this screams like the PCB should actually be replaced rather than just cutting and hiding a wire? Are we getting a half-rump fix, possibly due to supply chain issues and bad press? Luckily this doesn't impact me so far, but who knows, certainly could expand. I just fear for others.
In this world where so many are out there breaking into vehicles, stealing vehicles, cutting off cats, to tell people to park outside begs the question of where does Ford's liability in this end?
In this world where so many are out there breaking into vehicles, stealing vehicles, cutting off cats, to tell people to park outside begs the question of where does Ford's liability in this end?
fjordexpedition
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I’ve thought about this from a liability perspective as well. When the notification came out, we were in the middle of hail season in my area. I would never park it outside during that part of year. If the vehicle gets destroyed by hail, does Ford share any liability? The only reason it’s outside is because Ford told me it had to be. I know the answer is good luck with that. But it’s a bit irritating. Not so much because of the vehicle getting damaged, but the fact that repairs and or vehicle replacements are very hard to come by these days. At the least I would try to argue any deductible or premium increase with my insurance company.
neuralfraud
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I tried to dissect this thing but it requires a jig to release all the lock tabs... I just dont have that kind of ambition. Either way its super strange that they would rather break the circuitry out side the box than to repair or replace the PCB. I would love to be hearing these discussions for sure... lol
Ok to be fair - the bypass procedure is definitely quicker and easier to perform so less warranty labor, right?
but they still have to manufacture the breakout box that houses the relay and fuse, plus the wiring kit... that had to be designed and tested and manufactured - how is that more value oriented than re-ordering a batch of PCBs or junction boxes with a revised PCB?
I'm thinking that ford is in a world of crap over this issue and went for the quickest and easiest solution. Of course if other things are Burnett then parts are required. As we all know parts just aren't around. Sure the repair is sorta mickey mouse but it stops the fires, or so they say.
duneslider
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I am wondering if the original design had to be modified due to issues getting a chip and the new design isn't working? I know our suppliers for some equipment had to redesign pcb's in equipment to account for chips they couldn't get. I also know of one manufacturer buying washing machines in bulk so they can steal the chips out of them and use them in their equipment.
bjohnson425
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I am confused on this. I called to make an appointment for the fix they said will need it for 2 days . I also asked about parts availability as mentioned in the notice and they said there are no parts the recall is just an inspection and tape. They are a smaller dealership and did admit mine will be the first they have seen or done with this issue which makes me a bit nervous.
So for those of you who had it done did they actually change anything or what did they actually do. I thought the inspection was related to rental reimbursement.
So for those of you who had it done did they actually change anything or what did they actually do. I thought the inspection was related to rental reimbursement.
Got a robocall from lincoln telling me parts should be available this week and dealer will be contacting me. Not holding my breath and don’t know what parts they will supposedly have. Just renewed my second 30 day rental from dealer.
There are two different procedures depending on whether you have HD cooling or not. HD cooling goes with HT tow.
If you have HD tow which has the higher output cooling fans then there is a fix. Look on your Ford Pass app or the website and see which recall number is associated with your VIN. If it's S2248 then there is a fix. If you don't have HD tow you have the lower output cooling fans then there is a fix but parts are not available yet.
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