Transmission Question for ‘21 & ‘22 owners.

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3rd Expyowner123

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Fortunately my 2018 transmission seems fine. After cam phasers replacement, transmission had to re-learn, presumably from having battery disconnected for extended period of time.
I will make one comment, I think it is important to bring truck to a complete stop before shifting from reverse to drive.
With the dial it is easy to start shifting to drive while still moving backwards. I have a theory that habitually with sudden shift causes the transmission to learn some “bad habits”. Stating that, I doubt this is the root cause of serious hard shift issues. However it is something easy to experiment with.
 

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We have an 18 that has had all the cam phasers done (4xs, right/lt side twice) doors that would not close, hard down shift in the 15-25 mph range. The down shift they seem to have addressed by a computer relearn. Been maybe 10 months and it has not returned. Bought used and made the dealer give us a warranty after they failed to disclose the engine work before we bought it. Can’t wait for the 22.
 

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Hey everyone, was just looking up any other questions / comments on the hard downshift. i got my 2022 expy Max in August. only 3000 miles so far but noticed the hard downshift at times coming to a stop. After driving a GM 10 speed, this tranny seems wonderful but wondered if others were experiencing the same thing. Doesn't sound like there is a fix out there yet. If they are like GM, there never will be. Will keep my eye on this forum. Thanks to all.
 

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My 2022 is slightly better than my 2019, but I still experience some clunking downshifts. The other day it was a cold morning and the first stop sign I hit it made a horrible sound. I don't think much has changed with these you either have to accept it or find something else to drive.
 

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Parents have a ‘20 and we have a ‘22. The transmission in ours is much smoother, quieter and seems calibrated much better. Smoothest transmission I’ve ever owned and I’ve owned quite a few Ford vehicles. We have around 8k miles atm.
 

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I had the clunking, sloppy shifting till I put a tune. Fixed all that…
 

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GM and Ford Co-Developed the 10 speed transmission together. How did GM get it so right and Ford get it so wrong? Seems like Ford is getting their engineers off street corners these days.
 

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GM and Ford Co-Developed the 10 speed transmission together. How did GM get it so right and Ford get it so wrong? Seems like Ford is getting their engineers off street corners these days.
Mechanically they are the same. The programming is different. GM favors longer RPM band utilization, ford tries to keep the truck out of boost when possible. It’s all for the EPA, if you tune it they can adjust the shift points, makes the transmission shift better.
 

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Mechanically they are the same. The programming is different. GM favors longer RPM band utilization, ford tries to keep the truck out of boost when possible. It’s all for the EPA, if you tune it they can adjust the shift points, makes the transmission shift better.
If they are mechanically the same, why are the Ford units physically failing? Ford Crappy build or Q/A vs GM?

BTW, I'm not necessarily sticking up for GM, I have several GM vehicles and they have their issues as well, but not generally in core components (Engines and Transmissions) and when a severe widespread problem is uncovered, they fix it.
 
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