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    Running board hinge replacement question

    The connecting bar is needed for EL models because the running board is so long. I transfers some of the torque from the motor to the rear hinge assembly. You got a new front hinge that's made only for non-EL aka "shorty" models. These cannot be used on long-wheelbase trucks. You will need the...
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    Can I install a third row seat?

    Bolts come in many grades and many different strengths. Again, seats and seatbelt hardware attachment is SAFETY CRITICAL. You should use only Ford OEM factory screws, bolts, and hardware and follow factory guidelines when tightening screws and bolts. I strongly recommend you get the needed...
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    ForScan Tweaks - 2015+

    I'll probably do the same thing. Just curious to learn more about the intricacies of how these things work.
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    Door wiring diagram

    Hold on. . . This setup looks like it's designed for OEM mirrors that are folded by pushing and holding a switch. On our trucks, you fold the mirrors by sending a momentary 12V pulse to the Mirror Fold/Unfold line on the Driver Seat Module (DSM). The module then commands the mirrors to move.
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    ForScan Tweaks - 2015+

    Makes sense! Our BCM likely has totally different firmware so certain functionality simply isn't there. I'd bet it's a "holdover" from 2014 with modifications only in code, making it a bit of an "odd duck." The reason "why" is likely just trying to save money. All this will start to come into...
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    ForScan Tweaks - 2015+

    Just from reading the factory service manual and studying the vehicle network topology, along with some of the module programmable parameters in the F150 spreadsheet. The Fusion service manual describes exactly what the DDM and PDM modules do. My older 2009 Expy manual lists a rather complete...
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    ForScan Tweaks - 2015+

    I'd like to dig into some factory service info for F150. But, thanks to TXFRDOwner, I was able to study the Fusion a bit. The DDM and PDM do nothing but control power windows and mirrors. Not clear at this point if they communicate anything to the IPC. These modules were added as a money-saving...
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    ForScan Tweaks - 2015+

    My old 2009 FSM has a section on module communication that lists all the modules, what bus they are on, and even a table of the different messages being sent back and forth over the bus with origination and destination modules. Is something like that available for any of the vehicles you...
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    ForScan Tweaks - 2015+

    You obviously know a lot more about this than I do. I'm not trying to argue, just offer whatever I can in hopes it might help. I also read there are two types of tire pressure sensors -- "high" type and "low" type. The 2015 f150 BCM has additional lines of code for TPMS settings that include...
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    ForScan Tweaks - 2015+

    How much info do we have on settings in the BCM? Since both older and newer vehicles send TPMS data to the BCM, I'm wondering if there is any sort of setting or control for the format of TPMS data. Vehicles with tire pressure readout may receive their sensor data from an RT (Radio Transceiver)...
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    ForScan Tweaks - 2015+

    I think I might have a theory as to why we can't get Tire Pressure to work. Our 2015-17 trucks are basically the same as a 2014 F150, right? I read that the 2014 F150 uses different TPMS sensors that are not compatible with later F150 models. Tire pressure display didn't become available on the...
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    ForScan Tweaks - 2015+

    So frustrating! I thought tire pressures were handled and broadcast by the BCM? What other module is involved that we don't have? Is it by chance the Driver Door Module? Thanks! :)
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    Side Mirror Glass Removal

    There is no dimming circuit on the passenger mirror. It's driver-side only! :)
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    Expedition Seat compatibility?

    There have been numerous threads on this before. The seats should be the same for 2007-17. The interior colors are slightly different 2007-14 and 2015-17 (for example, Charcoal Black '07-'14 vs. Ebony '15-'17). The "captain's chairs" have a different upper seat frame. For whatever reason, Ford...
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    Side Mirror Glass Removal

    Wow, that is weird! Sounds like you have an intermittent wire problem, perhaps a short somewhere or a loose/damaged pin. From the FSM, Rear View Mirrors section, Pinpoint Test F, disconnect the connector (C516 left, CC622 Right) and turn the ignition ON. Turn on Rear Defog. Check voltage at Pin...
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    Side Mirror Glass Removal

    I know how much work it is taking mirrors apart. Not fun! I was thinking you might have a broken trace in the heating element, causing an open circuit. But it looks like you verified continuity so it seems your element is good. You might use an ammeter connected in series though to make sure...
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    Adding BLIS

    Yes, we lived for decades without something like this and most of us survived. LOL But, there were still plenty of mishaps. Always good to have a backup in case you aren't paying attention or miss something! :)
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    2019 xlt need better speakers

    The B&O Play speakers that come with the Platinum are outstanding. . .
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    Adding BLIS

    BTW, if anyone wants to tackle taking their mirrors apart, you could install your own BLIS LED pretty much anywhere you want. This way you could have your blind spot glass *and* BLIS at the same time. I installed my own LEDs on a 2005 Grand Marquis where I added turn signal glass and also...
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    Adding BLIS

    The BLIS mirror glass is different from the blind spot mirrors so no you can't have both. BLIS was a standalone option even on XLT but required the 202A package. That means it came on mirrors that were power with memory and had heated glass and integrated turn signals. On 2015-17 Limited...
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    Adding BLIS

    Hey there! I did send you a PM (at least as best I can understand how those work on this site). It was about tire pressure display. :) When I was shopping for my current truck, I looked at a lot of different 2015-17 models. I found only one or two Limited models that had BLIS. At least where I...
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    Adding BLIS

    While I'm not new to the Expedition (on my second truck now, been an owner since 2010) I'm still learning about how to do work on it. I'm a complete newbie when it comes to the programming side of things. It's thanks to forums like this that I can even consider attempting a project like this...
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    Traction options?

    As far as I know, a limited-slip rear axle didn't become available until 2016 which is why I constrained my search for a new truck to 2016-17 models. According to the Ford brochure, it was standard on EL 4WD models (all trim levels) and not available on "shorty" trucks -- even those with 4WD.
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    Adding BLIS

    BTW, it turns out the connector for the SOD modules is available from an aftermarket source: https://www.rockauto.com/en/parts/motorcraft,WPT1545,side+object+sensor+connector,21759 Also, I saw a thread on a Mustang forum where people were adding BLIS but not using the factory mirrors. They...
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    Adding BLIS

    This is AWESOME, thanks! Some thoughts that might help: First, the Side Object Detection (SOD) modules are generic and are used on several different vehicles. Special attaching brackets are needed that are specific to our trucks. These are bolted to the vehicle with three bolts. If you're...

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