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  1. bb37

    2025 Expedition Tremor

    And, that kinda makes sense. I think the Kentucky Truck Plant, where Expeditions and Navigators are assembled, is still building 2024s. Dealers are still waiting for orders for 2024s to be filled. And, the plant will probably be shut down a few days around Christmas/New Years. It will take...
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    Factory Ford Skid Plate

    Looking further at the listing on the Levittown Ford Parts website, did you get these brackets...
  3. bb37

    Factory Ford Skid Plate

    Since the parts websites clearly say that this shield will fit your vehicle, I'd be pissed at Ford (yeah, I know, get in line).
  4. bb37

    2022 RWD in Snow/Winter Weather

    Where you are in Ohio will make big difference in how the roads are maintained in winter. Toledo and Cleveland deal with lake effect snow (wind blows across the Great Lakes, picks up moisture, dumps it in adjacent land area), so they're probably pretty good with snow removal. Cincinnati gets...
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    Inlet/Outlet Hose Replacement

    The engineers designing these things are probably very good at what they do. However, the accountants probably badgered them to reduce the cost (hence the plastic Y) and the production people probably badgered them to reduce the installation time (hence the pre-made assembly of 3 hoses with a Y...
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    School me on lift, wheels, and tires for my new 2015 mud edition!

    I'm no expert, but for an off-road use vehicle, I believe you generally do not want larger diameter wheels. Increasing the tire diameter while maintaining the existing 17" wheel diameter will make for taller sidewalls on the tires. The taller sidewalls will have more flex and "give" than shorter...
  7. bb37

    Hellwig 7696 is installed on 2024 Expedition

    Have you contacted Hellwig (the company, not the forum user)? They can't address issues that aren't brought to their attention directly.
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    2024 Expedition Max Limited - Negotiated Deal Good or Bad?

    I know doc fees are a small part of the deal, but $499 seems high. At $125/hour, that's 4 hours to complete the paperwork.
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    Inlet/Outlet Hose Replacement

    The techs at a dealer may have actually done the job before and are familiar with the process. If nothing else, the dealer techs will be familiar with the hose fittings Ford uses. An independent shop may be flying blind. I think I'd ask the independent shop if they've ever replaced heater hoses...
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    2025 Expedition details

    Glacier Gray was an F150 color in 2024. Maybe you can find on a dealer's lot to look at.
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    Does driving a 2019 Ford Expedition XLT in Eco mode reduce engine and transmission life?

    I resemble that remark. ;) My 2023 Dodge Durango R/T Premium TnG that I bought new has 13,000 miles and I've had no issues with it. The 5.7 HEMI V8 has cylinder deactivation, aka multi displacement system (MDS). When you turn off ECO mode, it disables MDS. So, that's a clear case of ECO mode...
  12. bb37

    2025 Expedition details

    Yeah, that's another $1495 and $1500.
  13. bb37

    "Long-distance" deal

    Your definitions are different from mine. I rank them from bad to worse as: WONKY, SNAFU, FUBAR. Wonky is OK. I can deal with wonky. SNAFU is situation normal, but more effed up than wonky. But, FUBAR is pretty much beyond hope for recovery.
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    2025 Expedition details

    I don't think you can make direct comparisons between 2022-2024 packages and 2025 packages. A 2024 Limited 4WD with Stealth Performance Package (304A) is $71,515 plus $10,630 for $82,145. A 2025 Platinum 4WD with Stealth Performance Package is $74,430 plus $6,545 for $80,975.
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    Coolant Hose Leak

    I've seen guys on YouTube talk about putting worm drive clamps over the aluminum sleeves and cranking them down until the split in the sleeve closes.
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    Coolant Hose Leak

    Are these coolant hose failures due to the plastic Y pipe failing? Or, due to the aluminum crimp sleeves that are used to clamp the rubber hose to the Y pipe splitting and releasing its clamp?
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    2025 Expedition details

    Since Kentucky Truck Plant won't start building 2025 Expeditions until January (?), I doubt that IIHS would have any of the new ones to test. Ford may have sent some pre-production samples for testing, but I hope that IIHS doesn't post safety ratings on new vehicles until they test production...
  18. bb37

    Coolant Hose Leak

    Watch a few videos of guys replacing the heater hose Y sections on Expeditions and you may have a better understanding of why the labor charge to do so is so high.
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    "Long-distance" deal

    "Wonky" must be a legal term that I'm not familiar with. ;) Since lemon laws are enacted at the state level, one would have to research their state laws to see how they might apply to a potential lemon law situation. In my brief research of the Indiana lemon law, it only protects Indiana...
  20. bb37

    "Long-distance" deal

    The Expedition that I've located is in the same state as me. I would be very reluctant to travel across state lines to buy a new vehicle.
  21. bb37

    "Long-distance" deal

    I'm in the market for a new 2024 Expedition. I've located one that checks all the boxes for color, packages, and options at a dealer that's about 3 hours from me. How do I approach this? Can I expect to make the deal by phone or email? What will I have to do to convince the dealership that I'm...
  22. bb37

    2019 Expedition

    From the thread title "2019 Expedition".
  23. bb37

    Fuses

    In my area, O'Reilly Auto Parts stores can order parts that they don't have in stock. Those orders are usually filled within a day or two. I imagine that other auto parts stores have the same procedure for getting out of stock parts. I'm lucky...I can stand in the parking lot of my local...
  24. bb37

    Average MSRP discount for 2024

    I'm looking at 2024 Limiteds non-Max with 304A. Advertised dealer discounts range from less than 1% to 10%. The current incentives on a Limited in my part of the world are $5000 Retail Customer Cash (expires 01/02/2025) plus $1000 Special Retail Bonus (expires 10/31/2025).
  25. bb37

    2024 and 2023 Expedition Platinum wiring diagrams

    The wiring diagrams are in the service manual and you can download a copy from the link in this post: https://www.expeditionforum.com/threads/ford-expedition-shop-service-manual.52273/page-7#post-518391

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