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    Adaptive Cruise Control, owner feedback...

    I like the Ford approach of focusing on augmenting and making life easier for drivers, but not pretending that we are at the full self driving stage yet. Keep driver engaged at all times but have him do as little work as possible. I used adaptive cruise control on 2,000 mile trip this...
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    2022 Expy announced

    Navigator has reduced towing capacity and inflated pricing on black or reserve labels, and expedition max still somewhat limited in payload, tongue weight, and rear suspension. Wagoneer supports 10k lbs towing,, but too short wheelbase.. Like the idea of the new timberline, but if it isn't...
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    Traded the Navigator and couldn't be happier!

    The new grand wagoneer is the only full size SUV that I think compares in luxury, power, 4x4, and towing to expedition. It's a major achievement for jeep. However, the only size choice still has small wheelbase. Fords supposed to do major revamp on expedition around 2024-2026. Minor revamp...
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    Should I be able to tow this trailer safely?

    37ft trailer that's not flatbed/equipment... forgetting all the other numbers, the minimum to even consider towing with expedition is $3k propride hitch.. otherwise, trailer sway might get you killed the first time you have high winds or go too fast on freeway. Tongue weight and payload...
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    Buy 2021 now or wait for 2022…

    Expedition is an expensive SUV/Truck and we are a few yrs away from once a decade massive jump in tech/design. F150 hybrid and lightning rolling out now. Ford is busy rolling out bronco, maverick, mach-e too. Expedition and Superduty usually get new stuff last. If you are going to keep...
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    Towing and 10 speed transmission

    Nothing keeps you from putting in 4wd and tow mode at same time .... I put in tow mode always when trailer attached, and switch to 4A immediately if stressing expedition at all...then back to 2H when towing done. As far as transmission goes, it's braking and shifting down to lower gears to...
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    Platinum Towing Experiences

    Solved 99% of our towing issues with 2020 expedition platinum by switching to better constructed trailer. New is 30ft with 4400lb tandem axles, 15" offroad tires, higher ground clearance, and better weight distribution inside. Estimated trailer weight 7500lbs. No issues under 62mph, can...
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    Towing Airstream Trailers with 2021 Ford Expedition Max

    Wdh will push 20% of tongue weight back on trailer if configured right. If you balance weight inside airstream right you might be fine 99% of time, I only worry about steep windy passes where expedition relies on transmission shifting to keep speed stable under 45mph...on a really hot day, the...
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    Anyone tow a 7000lb camper?

    Only issue with expedition towing 30ft 7500lb trailer is on hot days when going slow down very steep windy mountain roads...expedition activates transmission braking in tow haul mode and transmission temp increases relatively fast... no problem above 50mph, but 6+% grades at 45mph on 90 degree...
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    Photos of Trailer(s) that you tow with your Expedition

    Tows perfectly on nearly all roads up to 45-50mph, good most of time up to 62mph, safe in flat highway up to 70mph.. only point of concern is steep windy downhill mountain roads where expedition engages engine/transmission braking...transmission heats faster than desired with grades >6% when...
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    Anyone tow a 7000lb camper?

    Towing toyhauler, 30ft, probably 7500lbs...
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    First time experience with towing a 25 ft 4200 lb trailer

    Expedition towing is typically 8-12mpg. 45-60mph sweet spot depending on trailer. For safety, good hitch plus under 30ft and 7,000lbs helps...most important is balancing weight and adjusting trailer brake setting.
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    Transmission temperature increasing with age?

    18 month old expy platinum...when first got it, I only saw 210+ transmission temps when towing...today, I was 210 just with two passengers on a hilly country road going 50-60mph and otherwise empty...I'll admit weather was hot. A month back, hit 230+ towing on a mild weather day...not that many...
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    F150 Lightning Reveal

    https://electriccarnews.com/2021/05/29/ford-reveals-f-150-lightnings-300-mile-range-is-actually-with-1000lbs-of-cargo/ Sent from my SM-T970 using Tapatalk
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    F150 Lightning Reveal

    Exactly. I have a 29ft 6-7k lbs normally loaded trailer, about max for what is reasonable with expy...but the trailer is a toyhauler with huge cargo capacity not being used (9300lb gvwr). I have to be close to perfect with wdh to keep within expy payload and hitch, should really be using 1...
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    F150 Lightning Reveal

    Its a real pickle now for those of us who are only towing with expedition but wanting to upgrade to bigger trailer or want to add a truck for safer travel. All the great innovation is currently in half ton space which expedition provides much of the same power, but is mostly limited by...
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    F150 Lightning Reveal

    Charging stats - high-end home can add 30miles/hour charge, max 300 mile, high-end commercial station can charge 54 miles in 10 min or bring vehicle from 15 to 85% in 45 min, can easily see towing 100-150 miles between stations, resting 30 minutes, repeat until end of day. They offer 2k payload...
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    Aftermarket Hitch Receiver?

    I have a 6700 uvwr trailer, probably 7200lb loaded, especially if any water in tanks. 12% of 7200 is 864. My geny hitch plus wdh bars is approx 100lbs. If I switched out for a pro pride, the hitch weight would also be high. Either way, looking at over 930lbs on receiver. Many vehicles have...
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    Platinum Towing Experiences

    Limited standard or max? How long of a trailer? Been unhappy with the towing of our 2020 platinum, but we have a 7250lb 33ft trailer... tempted to replace it with a max when the 2022 model year comes out, and then add summo springs, light truck tires, and a sway bar, maybe pro pride hitch...
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    2022 hybrid option? yes please

    Check out testing on pickuptalk YouTube channel, f150 can be set to monitor inverter and turn on engine only when needed in a standby type mode. So, you can camp overnight in rv turning on rv heater without leaving truck on continuously. Sent from my SM-N986U1 using Tapatalk
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    2022 hybrid option? yes please

    1.5kwh is puny. It's less than the 2.5kwh that Ford put in its 2012 plug-in hybrids, and far less than the 25-80 or even as high as 200kwh advertised in some modern crazy EV's. Still, gas plus batteries - not just battery alone has been the best solution for awhile now and I'm happy that Ford...
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    2022 hybrid option? yes please

    First, if those towing numbers, are accurate..it's a huge boost. I doubt it though. The expedition has a limited wheelbase. It's not going to get same rating as proper f150. But, if Ford could produce a max platinum 4x4 version with hybrid motor and enough wheelbase to mostly eliminate sway...
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    What Could Ford Do Better?

    I just honestly can't wait for ford to unveil a modern expedition based on f350 frame with f150 hybrid builtin generator and larger screen plus full reclining seats. But, I think they are worried it will kill off the need for families to purchase both expedition and superduty.. Ford makes more...
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    Travel Trailer Recommendations.

    Last I researched, payload stickers assume single 150lb driver and mimimal gas (not full tank)... but everyone claims something different. Sent from my SM-N986U1 using Tapatalk
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    Travel Trailer Recommendations.

    With expedition, you can tow most entry to midrange gd bumper pull trailers under 35ft but what will kill you is sway from short expy wheelbase and long trailer air resistance/wind or trailers that are weighted more in the back. You don't have much safety margin going 30+ft. Expy tows 30ft...

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