'05- Can't Siphon Gas?

[ExpyAlaDocious]

2005 Ford Expedition
Can't siphon gas?
Long story short- fuel pump died right after I filled gas up. 20+ gal in the tank, and I need to siphon it out so I can attempt to drop the tank and replace the pump.
The Problem: Where's the gas? I got a 6' hose, stuck it in as far as it will let me go until it stops (nearly 4-5'). It hits bottom or a stopping point- Can't get it to siphon- just pulls fumes. I pull the hose out, and it's BONE DRY. No gas on the hose at all. If I'm not hitting the bottom, there's something in the way stopping the hose from going lower... do I need a longer hose and how do I push it further in when something's stopping it?
Now, I've confirmed it's a full tank on the gauge, and again, I JUST filled up. Is there some sort of anti-siphon thing or a trick a moron like me doesn't know about? How can I siphon this?
Thank you!

 

[S20Workstation4]

If I remember right, there is a mesh screen in the bottom of the filler neck. It's to prevent people from stealing gas...

Maybe use a car jack to help support the tank during removal? It'll be heavy during removal, but that's my only idea.


-Joe

 

[whtbronco]

My fuel pump failed with the tank nearly full as well. The only way to siphon fuel out is to remove the fuel pump module. The filler neck prevents siphoning.

Using a cross beam for my jack I screwed some 2x4's to the end and basically made an H frame to use my 3 ton floor jack to hold the weight. Something like 30" long and maybe 15-16" wide, worked fine and remained stable. In fact I replaced the pump assembly and repaired a leaking vent seam without removing the tank from the jack. This could be done using only wood though.

 

[Ixlr8nAk]

Have removed fuel from an 2004 tank, by connecting a electric fuel pump to the fuel filter outlet side. The smaller less gph pump I used had a hard time pulling fuel through the stuck pump ( inoperable ). But it along with an out board motor fuel line primer/ bulb pump https://www.amazon.com/JRL-Primer-R...ocphy=9033878&hvtargid=pla-2281435177818&th=1( between filter and outside electric pump ), got it done in two days. In the case of draining a tank with a working pump. The 04 has a internal pressure regulator and is a full duty cycle pump. It can empty the tank in a short amount of time, but most likely a good idea to limit on off cycle to a reasonable time. Though the fuel flow cools the pump. It requires finding the green and yellow striped wire that feeds power to the pump at the fuse box, and having a ground wire to also use in jumping the pump. The leads are part of a connector that plug into the top mid section of the fuse box. I have not jumped mine, but believe the plug in connector is the lead wires that go to the pump. For sure keep any switch or connection used for such a process away from fumes and remote enough to be far from spillage
When using the internal pump, don't run the tank dry. Leading cause of burnt up pumps is running low on gas. Pump cavitates and lacks the for mentioned cooling of fuel flow.