2024: why better mileage in 4A than 2H???

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Hello friends,
My ‘24 XLT is getting better gas mileage in 4A vs 2H. By 1.5-1.8 mpg. 4 separate tests over 10K. Baffling!

Why?

What’s the fix?

TIA, Bob
 

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Yr post caught my eye cuz I don't like my own MPG. Anyway, here's what AI Grok says about it:

"The most common expectation for a 2024 Ford Expedition (and similar Ford trucks/SUVs with 4WD systems) is that 2H (rear-wheel drive only) should deliver slightly better fuel economy than 4A (automatic 4WD) on dry pavement. In 2H, the front driveline components (axles, driveshaft, differential, etc.) are fully disengaged, minimizing parasitic drag and rotational losses.

However, some owners report seeing better mileage in 4A than in 2H under certain conditions. This isn't the norm (most forums and tests show 2H edging out 4A by a small margin, often 0–2 mpg, or negligible difference), but here are the main reasons it could happen in practice for your Expedition:
  • Driving conditions and variables dominate small differences: The drivetrain drag penalty from 4A is very small on modern Ford systems (often <1 mpg in controlled tests, sometimes imperceptible). Real-world factors like temperature, tire pressure, wind, traffic patterns, slight changes in driving style, route, or even the trip computer's accuracy can easily swing results by 1–2 mpg in one direction or the other. If you tested 4A during warmer weather, lighter traffic, or with a tailwind, it could appear better even though 2H is theoretically more efficient.
  • Mode-specific throttle/transmission mapping or behavioral changes: Switching modes sometimes subtly alters how the vehicle behaves (e.g., pedal sensitivity or shift points), even if not officially documented. Some owners note that staying in 4A feels smoother or encourages lighter throttle inputs, indirectly improving economy. (This is anecdotal and not a designed fuel-saving feature.)
  • Hybrid-like bias in some interpretations (less likely for Expedition): In a few Ford discussions (mostly F-150 PowerBoost hybrids), people speculate that 4A might bias toward front-wheel drive in certain scenarios, and FWD can be marginally more efficient than RWD on some vehicles due to weight distribution or driveline losses. However, the Expedition's system is a torque-on-demand setup that defaults primarily to rear-biased (RWD) in normal cruising and only sends torque forward as needed—so this doesn't typically apply and wouldn't make 4A better.
  • Measurement quirks or confirmation bias: Trip computer estimates can vary based on recent driving history. If you reset the computer right before switching modes, or if one test included more highway vs. city, that could explain it. Hand-calculated fill-up-to-fill-up MPG is more reliable for comparison.
In official Ford guidance and most owner reports for the Expedition and similar platforms (F-150, Bronco, etc.), 2H is recommended for best fuel economy on dry roads, while 4A is fine for mixed/wet conditions with minimal efficiency penalty. If you're consistently seeing noticeably better numbers in 4A over multiple tanks/identical routes, it might be worth checking for any drivetrain issues in 2H (e.g., incomplete front axle disconnect) or logging more controlled data.

Overall, any real difference is tiny—usually within normal variation—and not something to stress over unless you're hyper-miling. Many Expedition owners run 4A year-round with no meaningful MPG hit."
 

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Hello friends,
My ‘24 XLT is getting better gas mileage in 4A vs 2H. By 1.5-1.8 mpg. 4 separate tests over 10K. Baffling!

Why?

What’s the fix?

TIA, Bob
What is your fuel mileage? What mode are you using? How is it equipped?
 

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Hmm… as soon as I use 4A or 4H my gas mileage goes down = burning more fuel. Less miles driven, more fuel burnt. Unless you have a lot of wheel spin, there is no way in hell you get better gas mileage on pave with 4A or H engaged. Even the most advanced AWD systems use more fuel when the AWD is engaged vs 2wd. The new cars also turn on or off the front or read diff… a fuel saving measure.

So naaah…. Not buying it.
I wonder… you use the instrument cluster to read mpg, or do you actually hard calculate at the gas pump and miles driven?
That board computer can be way off.

What I did notice and what does effect MPG is tires, head wind and very long or very short trips.
I constantly get better gas mileage after I had driven my SUV on a 500mi trip. Doesn’t matter on regular gas or supreme.
 

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...That board computer can be way off...
Presumably you meant the onboard computer, and I wonder why you say this i.e. is that just from experience i.e. anecdotal or might there be some technical reason(s) why the Expy's numbers could be/get off.
 

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Do it old school and see what you get. Take the onboard out of it. I see no way that awd, 4wd, get's beter fuel mileage than 2h. if tested with ALL things being equal.
 

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Presumably you meant the onboard computer, and I wonder why you say this i.e. is that just from experience i.e. anecdotal or might there be some technical reason(s) why the Expy's numbers could be/get off.
Damn autocorrect… yes should be onboard computer. The onboard computer on my Expy lies a bit too. Most onboard computers are off, some more others less. And that is my personal experience.
 

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Fuel economy comparisons are difficult unless identical routes are run exclusively (like a drive to work) multiple times to wash out things like wind direction and speed, traffic, traffic light stops, etc. Even then, something as simple as ambient temperature's effect on tire pressure unless intentionally adjusted can mess with the comparisons, especially when you are dealing with 1-2 mpg. I find it highly unlikely that 4A would be measurably better than 2H, UNLESS the IWH system was not functioning (defeated due to TSB action, etc.). If the hubs are engaged, then you're "back driving" the front driveline with the front wheels while in 2H. But, in 4A you would be "driving" the front driveline much of the time. An undriven wheel has more rolling resistance than a driven one, obviously. Finally, Hypoid gear sets (ring and pinion) are more power efficient when being forward driven rather than backward driven.

My '22 F150 PowerBoost Hybrid does not have IWE, I notice NO fuel economy difference between driving in 4A and 2H. It has a normally open rear end (E-Locker) and as much Torque as my GT500. It's impossible to avoid rear wheel spin in many conditions without using 4A.
 

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