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I have been wanting to upgrade my 2020 to a 2026 however, I read that the 2026 F150 3.5eb is getting an exhaust particle filter. I 100% do not want one of these. I see the hp numbers for the f150 drop to 382 from 400 from this new filter.

However it looks the the hp for the 2026 expedition is still 400 which makes me think it might not get the filter yet.

Have we confirmed the 2026's will receive this filter or not?
 

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I have been wanting to upgrade my 2020 to a 2026 however, I read that the 2026 F150 3.5eb is getting an exhaust particle filter. I 100% do not want one of these. I see the hp numbers for the f150 drop to 382 from 400 from this new filter.

However it looks the the hp for the 2026 expedition is still 400 which makes me think it might not get the filter yet.

Have we confirmed the 2026's will receive this filter or not?
The 2026 Expedition's 3.5L EB are 400HP for the Standard and 440 HP for the High Output (Tremor, Platinum Ultimate, Navigator, and probably the Performance Edition). There hasn't been any mention of adding a Particulate Filter in any of the literature or Ford's Expedition order guide. Car manufactures have been adding particulate filters on direct injected engines to meet emissions. The Expeditions have both direct and port injection. Port is used on low and medium power demands, and direct is used for high power demands. I'm not sure if that's the case for the F150's 3.5L In any regard, it seems like the 2026 Exp's are not equipped with the particulate filter.
 

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The 2026 Expedition's 3.5L EB are 400HP for the Standard and 440 HP for the High Output (Tremor, Platinum Ultimate, Navigator, and probably the Performance Edition). There hasn't been any mention of adding a Particulate Filter in any of the literature or Ford's Expedition order guide. Car manufactures have been adding particulate filters on direct injected engines to meet emissions. The Expeditions have both direct and port injection. Port is used on low and medium power demands, and direct is used for high power demands. I'm not sure if that's the case for the F150's 3.5L In any regard, it seems like the 2026 Exp's are not equipped with the particulate filter.
Yes, the 2026 3.5 in the F150 has both injectors, 3rd Gen 3.5 just like the Expedition. Different duty cycles. I expect we will see the 27 Expedition with the GPF. It is the DUMBEST thing added to a Gas motor in years. But hey, Science.
 

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Dumbest thing? I mean it indeed does reduce airflow and hence reduces power, and increases fuel consumption. And eventually they will need expensive replacement. But of course they also do actually help dramatically reducing carbon particles which does help city air quality. ;)

(It does seem weird that F150 gasoline needs it while new diesel pickups can still be sold with smellable level of particles coming out. But I guess these fall into a different truck classes?)
 

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Dumbest thing? I mean it indeed does reduce airflow and hence reduces power, and increases fuel consumption. And eventually they will need expensive replacement. But of course they also do actually help dramatically reducing carbon particles which does help city air quality. ;)

(It does seem weird that F150 gasoline needs it while new diesel pickups can still be sold with smellable level of particles coming out. But I guess these fall into a different truck classes?)
It in NO WAY "dramatically reducing carbon particles". Have you read ANY of the studies? I have. Do you understand the chemistry, or just accepting what the EPA is feeding you? The percentage change in comparison to the negatives, is hilarious. This is not the way!

OMG..."Smellable" OH NO! You realize you are smelling the catalyst and the Urea being sprayed in the exhaust right?

You do know the DPF's in diesels while yes, do prevent that "dreaded" black puff of smoke, in total they decrease efficiency, and total in small diesels per gallon increase emissions. How could that be. BECAUSE they decrease MPG, so more fuel is burnt increasing total emissions, that does not actually help with TOTAL emissions. It is short sighted.

Why is it short sighted, because by adding PFI(Port Injection) alone to motors that already have GDI(Direct Injection) they could see a 50% decrease in particulates. In addition, and this is where it gets real fun...why did manufacturers switch to GDI which by the way has 3-4X the particulate emissions...for emissions. Anybody else see the irony? Both injectors, and using them at the correct times, makes BOTH better. But instead, here we are.
 

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Well, it depends on the studies I guess. Most I saw reduce it 90% or particles in the targeted range in the test bed. (And yes much less in ranges outside the compliance partiucle range targets, which is I think what you aiming at?)

And I know the difference between diesel urea and sooth smell. Many diesel pickups produce even visible sooth during boosts. Still in 2025, especially after some milage and deferred maintenance. It is just how diesels work. It still annoys the hell out of me having diesel stink at the schoolbus stop where my kids get picked up when some HD truck stops-and-goes at the stop sign.

Don't get me wrong. I'd not add one voluntarily myself to my own car, but if we all thought that we'd still be with 1970's smog air quality. I'm also not saying this is the only or best thing, but in the end it is a cost and reliability tradeoff vs meeting regulation requirements. Using both ports has its own challenges and tradeoffs as you know else everybody would already be doing that. Filters are fairly design easy, cost effective and a proven tradeoff. I also don't think ~18 HP on a F150 or Expedition is something to panic about or switch to the competition.
 

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The 2026 Expedition's 3.5L EB are 400HP for the Standard and 440 HP for the High Output (Tremor, Platinum Ultimate, Navigator, and probably the Performance Edition). There hasn't been any mention of adding a Particulate Filter in any of the literature or Ford's Expedition order guide. Car manufactures have been adding particulate filters on direct injected engines to meet emissions. The Expeditions have both direct and port injection. Port is used on low and medium power demands, and direct is used for high power demands. I'm not sure if that's the case for the F150's 3.5L In any regard, it seems like the 2026 Exp's are not equipped with the particulate filter.
I guess I was wrong. I pulled up the workshop manual on the PTS site using the VIN of my upcoming 2026. I would imagine the Workshop manual is pretty accurate since a ton of people refer to it for diagnosing and repair. Screenshot is attached. Interesting that the advertised HP is still 400HP and 440HP for the standard and high output respectively. Oh well, another stupid thing to ultimately repair/replace.
 

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Why a Particle filter!!!!

It should be a Particle accelerator! FORDMK3MODF.jpg

Do you have any real science on how much back-pressure the Particulate Filter creates? It seems obvious that if the filter begins to foul, the back-pressure would increase. As stated: when this is detected the exhaust temp is increased to burn it off. I know.... lets make a twin turbo, four stroke, gas engine a little more complicated. so where are we at to "Burn it off" 900F? ...1100F.... wait, this engine is metric... let me convert ...

Lots to learn

V/r

SM
 

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