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2nd Gen vs 3rd Gen

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Dmpsix, Mar 18, 2020.

  1. Dmpsix

    Dmpsix Member

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    Early 2nd gen had the 2v in their 5.4's

    Other than that, they're basically all 5.4 3v

    What are the differences between the two generations?

    I'm considering getting a 3rd gen. But I'm also considering just getting a remanufactured engine and transmission in my 2nd gen when the time comes.
     
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    2nd gen had torsion bar, 3rd gen had coil springs upfront
     
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    rjdelp7 2000 XLT

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    The 5.4l 3v was named 'one of the worst' engines(along with the Cadillac Northstar). Google it. Vehicles with it have a lower resale and plenty of issues(some say none). Watch on YouTube, a guy called CAR WIZARD. His channel is informative on the 5.4l. FORDTECHMAKULOCO, has many videos about these motors. In short... don't walk away...run.
     
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    After owning a 1st gen with a 5.4L 2V for about 4.5 years and now a 3rd gen for 2 months...... The 3rd gen is such a nicer vehicle. The way it drives, the way it feels, the interior, the 6 speed transmission, the way it sounds (or doesn’t sound....).....

    Check my links below. You’ll see I was all over my 1st gen. Good truck, not going to deny it that, but the 3rd gen, so far, is a nicer vehicle. I mean my 1st gen was designed and built during the Clinton administration...... That was a loooooong time ago.
     
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    The 2nd gen and 3rd gen share frames, the the latter being slightly revised for the rigidity and saftey reasons as well as to accommoate the el version. The front and rear suspension components were changed for cost savings (aluminum to steel) and interchangebility woth the f150. Also, interior parts were changed to use more f150(current ford products)parts. They also changed positioning of seats to add adjustability and space for passengers in all rows. Though not a full redesign, the 3rd gens changes were substantial enough to call it a separate gen. The 3rd gen has a nicer interior depending on trim and is a bit more refined in terms of noise isolation and ride quality, esp the latter years. The 2nd gen has a more raw feel to it. Its sportier, more harsh, louder, but has a way more connected feel, more tanklike, and has a more nimble feel. Also, the 2nd gen has more storage due to a larger console, column shift level, and larger storage pockets around the cabin. Passenger space wise, the third gen has redesigned seats and positioning that makes it far more comfortable, atleast in the first rows. As far as engine, the 3rd gens are faster trucks. The 5.4l 3v from my 05-06(2nd gen) and my 07-08(3rd gen) are problematic, so avoid those years. Some third gens get decent fe but its a wash. My 09 nav rwd avg 20 on the hwy. If you want comfort, a pre refreshed late model third gen expy/el(nav) with air suspension is one of the most comfy vehicles in autodome. 2nd gens with air sus are almost as comfy, but finding one without problems will be damn near impossible. For reliability and a daily driver thatll be rock solid, 04 expys are beloved by those who have em, check the 2nd gen threads and youll see what im tlkn about.
     
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    Machete My Rig. 2000 EB 4x4 5.4L

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    Don’t buy any V8 w DOHC and VVT. It’s a bomb waiting to go off. See FordMakalucoTech videos.
     
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    rjdelp7 2000 XLT

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    The 3.5l V6 has the exact same design, except it has turbos...aka more things to break.
     
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