Bigger trans cooler?

[hurseyc]

Greetings everyone.

On my 2010 limited 4x4 I have a 5 row transmission cooler in front of the radiator.

Does anyone know if there were bigger cooler options? The bracket looks like it was literally made for something twice the size of the current cooler.

I’m going to be doing some towing later this summer and am looking for some options for better trans cooling.

Thanks!


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[Habbibie]

Technically you can buy an aftermarket cooler (plenty online and your local auto parts stores sell them) they come in a wide array of sizes and thicknesses too. the good thing about it is it's already preinstalled on your expy so all you have to do is mount the physical cooler itself and reconnect the hoses.

Seen people zip tie them in place, others actually fabricated custom brackets... its nothing that you'll loose any sleep over just in the end you have to compensate by adding a little more atf for a bigger cooler

 

[hurseyc]

Technically you can buy an aftermarket cooler (plenty online and your local auto parts stores sell them) they come in a wide array of sizes and thicknesses too. the good thing about it is it's already preinstalled on your expy so all you have to do is mount the physical cooler itself and reconnect the hoses.

Seen people zip tie them in place, others actually fabricated custom brackets... its nothing that you'll loose any sleep over just in the end you have to compensate by adding a little more atf for a bigger cooler

Yep that’s one of the options I’m looking at. With that stock cooler right in the middle of the radiator it’ll make a tight fit for an aftermarket model. Thanks for the reply.


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[ExplorerTom]

I ditched my factory cooler for a marginally larger Hayden cooler. Then after routinely watching trans temps get over 200 degrees with that cooler, I installed the transmission cooler that the 6.0l diesel uses. It's massive. I haven't seen the temp over about 185-190. Before I'd see 210 while driving around in the city in the summer (not towing) with the AC on. Now it only warms up while actually straining the transmission: climbing mountains passes and slow moving 4wheeling.



It's probably not a bolt in install though. I had to get creative with how to mount it.

 

[bobmbx]

I ditched my factory cooler for a marginally larger Hayden cooler. Then after routinely watching trans temps get over 200 degrees with that cooler, I installed the transmission cooler that the 6.0l diesel uses. It's massive. I haven't seen the temp over about 185-190. Before I'd see 210 while driving around in the city in the summer (not towing) with the AC on. Now it only warms up while actually straining the transmission: climbing mountains passes and slow moving 4wheeling.

It's probably not a bolt in install though. I had to get creative with how to mount it.

Add your own fan and you could put it anywhere. Just run the fluid lines and power.

 

[coolzzy]

Just grab a 7 row cooler from a 12+ expy and plumb it into your existing 5 row cooler. Cost a couple bucks at the scrap yard and if you can pull it yourself, cut some extra transmission line/tube from the donor vehicle so you'll have the materials to join them together. Remember the transmission is thermostatically controlled and won't let fluid into the cooler until 185 anyway, no way of changing that.

 

[ExplorerTom]

Since I added the 6.0l cooler, my transmission rarely gets over 150. If it does get warmer, it doesn’t stay there long. With the old cooler, the only way to cool it down was to shut the engine off.

My transmission temps are read through an OBDII reader.

 

[Trainmaster]

I'm still trying to release the Ford "quick-connect" fittings on my 2008 trans lines so I can install a stock cooler...

 

[hurseyc]

Excellent info. Thanks everyone.


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[1997SCEBFEX]

I'm still trying to release the Ford "quick-connect" fittings on my 2008 trans lines so I can install a stock cooler...

First Gen '97and how I did it for reference as technology has greatly improved.

I used a tubing cutter then used rubber hoses to make final connections with small screw clamps into a B&M trans assembly filter (uses a Fram PH8) in addition to the oversized trans pan. Didn't have to remove quick connects. I see 150*, sometimes 165* during this hot time of year during city driving with AC on. Once at constant speed, generally below 150*. I winter time, just a smidge over 100*.

My gauge sender is mounted on the driver's side of the trans using the inspection port. Factory equipped stock trans cooler which is mounted separate from and below the radiator adjacent to the oil cooler at the big opening on either side of the front license plate.

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[coolzzy]

Those 150 temps only apply to the first and maybe second gen expeditions. Anything with the 6 speed is designed to run at around 200 for everyday driving. They use a full synthetic fluid and the internals are different as well. The 6 speed is thermostatically (mechanically, not viscosity based) controlled and will not allow fluid to enter the cooler until around 185-190. A huge cooler on the 6 speed will keep you at the factory temp under a heavy load but it will not allow you to run any cooler.

 

[Trainmaster]

Was waiting for someone to mention that, coolzzy... The 6 speeds are designed to run at an operating temperature that's high to some.

 

[nightfly]

I installed the transmission cooler that the 6.0l diesel uses.

What year and model did you use to order that? (and by anychance do you have the part number?) Expy's don't come with diesels here. And by any chance to you have any pic of it post installation? When I had my trans fluid changed, it looked like it was burning. So I don't want to have to do this twice, just going from a 5 row to a 7 row (7 row in later expys) seems like a waste of time. May as well do it right the first time. I'll be moving to Arizona soon, so I can use all the extra cooling I can get.

 

[ExplorerTom]

What year and model did you use to order that? (and by anychance do you have the part number?) Expy's don't come with diesels here. And by any chance to you have any pic of it post installation? When I had my trans fluid changed, it looked like it was burning. So I don't want to have to do this twice, just going from a 5 row to a 7 row (7 row in later expys) seems like a waste of time. May as well do it right the first time. I'll be moving to Arizona soon, so I can use all the extra cooling I can get.

Mine is a 26 row.

Pics:
https://www.expeditionforum.com/posts/307871/

Look for 2005-2007 F-250/350 Super Duties. Rockauto part number: FO4050104

 

[coolzzy]

Doesn't a cooler that size cover the entire ac condenser? That would negatively impact AC performance, especially in Arizona. Remember the F150 trucks with max tow package only come with the 4 row cooler and have not had widespread transmission issues. There are many many more of the pickups on the road with this same drive train than expeditions too. Change your fluid more often, I do it every other year at the dealer. The 7 row should serve you fine and still allow airflow for the AC condenser behind it. Going to a 7 row cooler alone is a 40% increase in cooling capacity.

 

[ExplorerTom]

AC hasn’t been effected actually like I thought it would.

The Super Duty cooler is the first thing the V10 and the 7.3l guys do to their Excursions and trucks. True they are heavier, but they do run the same transmission.

I lost a transmission in a different vehicle due to insufficient cooling. Call me gun shy when I see my cooler get fully saturated with heat with the old cooler. If you don’t have an OBDII reader, ignorance is bliss and you might be OK, might not.

 

[coolzzy]

They are not the same transmission, the V10 and excursions use the Ford 5 speed HD transmission. It is a sturdy unit but not thermostatically controlled, and it is designed to run at a lower temp than the 6 speed unit in the expedition.

 

[ExplorerTom]

V10 and 7.3 run the 4r100- 4 speed transmission. Same as the first gen 5.4l Expedition.

 

[coolzzy]

The 08 super duty switched to the 5r110 5 speed automatic, and kept that same huge 26 row transmission cooler. I don't have a problem with transmission temps on my 6r80 with its 7 row stock cooler, now the coolant temp of the motor is another story all together.

 

[hurseyc]

I found this on a raptor forum. I think it may be a direct swap.

https://www.tascaparts.com/oem-parts/ford-oil-cooler-asy-dl3z7a095b




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