Did I Hurt it!!

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    Thanks for the responses. Never used any additives and it does sound like a leak somewhere. I'm taking it in next week as soon as I can get an appointment.
     
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    O8navigator was right on with the cracked manifold. The dealer checked it out and that was or is the problem. It's on the drivers side which is the more labor intensive side. The service adviser said they are indeed a bitch to repair and usually involves broken bolts and studs which adds hours to the job. Gave me an estimate of upwards $1,500 to $1,700 for this repair. I told him I have the ESP warranty until 100,000 miles and the truck now has 94K. He said that's a good thing and is scheduling the repair. For once the Ford ESP extended warranty pays off.
     
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    O8navigator was right on with the cracked manifold. The dealer checked it out and that was or is the problem. It's on the drivers side which is the more labor intensive side. The service adviser said they are indeed a bitch to repair and usually involves broken bolts and studs which adds hours to the job. Gave me an estimate of upwards $1,500 to $1,700 for this repair. I told him I have the ESP warranty until 100,000 miles and the truck now has 94K. He said that's a good thing and is scheduling the repair. For once the Ford ESP extended warranty pays off.
     
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    Good to hear it's covered. I think the dealer usually pulls the engine to remove the manifold. Us normal folk have to get it out without doing that and it's terrible!

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    No mention of pulling the engine, he just said it usually takes a number of extra hours due to broken bolts they always seem to have to deal with. Plus being in the drivers side which is harder to get to. How does a exhaust manifold get cracked anyway? Engine under a load like pulling a trailer do it or cheaply made parts combination of both?
     
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    The exhaust manifold studs break, because Ford uses cheap stuff and they rot out. The manifold warps slightly and eventually may crack. I was told they make/use a stronger replacement studs and gaskets. The engine stays in the vehicle. The plastic inner fenders are removed to swap them out. The shop time varies, due to where the stud broke off. If they break flush with the head, they need to be extracted(appx.30min per stud). Ford has a 'specialized' tool, for this bad design. The stud/bolt/gasket kit is about $85 and the new(always replace them) manifolds are around $90/each. The rest is labor(5-7hrs). $1700 sound a bit high. Mine were around $550/per side. The passenger side is the harder side. This problem is one of the reasons, I will not buy another Ford.
     
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    When the service advisor was quoting the price over the phone he forgot I had the Ford ESP warranty good until 100k miles. Said he needs to call on the approval, get parts and schedule the time. Maybe that's why the comment $1500 to $1700. I never really trust the dealers especially some of the service advisors.
     
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    Its a tough job to quote, because of not knowing how many studs are broke. My service advisor has seen enough of these, usually expects 3 per side. The ones on the back of the engine. Mine broke with enough sticking out, the mechanic 'vise gripped' them out. He said, any that need to be extracted in the head, would be around $50/each.
     
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    Just wanted to give everyone a update. Picked up the Expedition after letting the dealer have if for 4 days and the cracked manifold has been replaced. Much quieter now. Work order said they had three bolts / studs broken off and had to be drilled. The dealer gave me a loaner car the whole time it was in their shop and that was not in my service contract so that was a plus. Hopefully, the passenger side manifold will be ok as I only have about 5K miles left on my Ford ESP extended warranty. This one only costs the deductible of $109.
     
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