Farewell to the board - thanks to all for your help

[Jettix2]

Just wanted to say farewell to the board here. Thanks much to those who have given advice and input over the last 4 years for our 2 expeditions…… including troubleshooting cam phasers, transmission clunks, and more.

We loved both of these vehicles but they didn’t love us LOL. 18 Platinum Max needed wheel bearings, running board motors, shocks, cam phasers, rear wiper fail, sunroof track, and a turbo I think…… current 19 Platinum max we bought with much lower miles with the hopes it would treat us better, but we’ve had wiring harness issues, AC condensate drain mold issues, repeated transmission issues, stuck running boards, both front and rear wiper failures, random electrical issues and more. When everything is dialed in, these 18+ Expeditions run and drive like a 7-series BMW. I just don’t have time to deal with the high maintenance aspect, even with my ESP warranty.

The depreciation has been horrendous, and I feel like I’m never going to get this vehicle paid off and be able to reliably drive it for awhile after it’s paid for….. so we cut our losses now, while it still has value.

Ford dealer is buying it from us and we bought a 2019 Sequoia Platinum from out of state and are having it shipped here.

My final advice would be 1) buy the ESP warranty and 2) don’t be afraid to consult a lemon law attorney if you’ve had multiple (or repeated) problems, as it was beneficial in my situation even though we purchased the vehicle used.

Thanks again to all.

 

[SyndicateZ]

bought a 2019 Sequoia Platinum from out of state and are having it shipped here

So u online bought the Sequoia without looking at it first? I wish luck with it!

This will be my last Ford as well for a few reasons not as many as yours tho sheesh

 

[GixxerJasen]

The Sequoia will be rock solid dependable, but will feel like a 1970's station wagon in comparison. I had my heart set on one of that generation Sequoia and when I went to test drive it, I also tested the Expedition back to back. I'd seen the reviews about how it felt old but had decided I didn't care, but I did. It was night and day. Still, if my Expedition give me too much more hassle, I'd see myself doing as you are doing. Enjoy the new ride.

 

[Jettix2]

So u online bought the Sequoia without looking at it first? I wish luck with it!

This will be my last Ford as well for a few reasons not as many as yours tho sheesh

Yep, but it’s a front-line vehicle from a Mercedes/Volvo dealer that has impeccable online reviews, with a 3 year certified warranty, so I’m hopeful that it’s as-described.

 

[Jettix2]

The Sequoia will be rock solid dependable, but will feel like a 1970's station wagon in comparison. I had my heart set on one of that generation Sequoia and when I went to test drive it, I also tested the Expedition back to back. I'd seen the reviews about how it felt old but had decided I didn't care, but I did. It was night and day. Still, if my Expedition give me too much more hassle, I'd see myself doing as you are doing. Enjoy the new ride.

Yep. It will feel like a dinosaur complete with the horrendous dash and outdated styling, but I can’t afford to keep spending $15k a year in depreciation on an Expedition that’s always in the shop

 

[HILLY]

Good luck with the transition. Before the Expedition I was a Toyota truck guy with 4Runner's and LC's. There's no dispute that they're rock solid for reliability and easy to maintain. I'd still go back to them.

After my first Expedition was crushed back in August, I started to look at all makes for a full size SUV replacement. A 2nd gen Sequoia being my primary focus. They were sparse on the used market being far and few in between and not without them being either exceptionally aged (around 10+ years) or rather high mileage to fit in the budget I was looking for. Expy #2 came along by chance and now I hope it serves me well in the long run.

 

[BigOleFordFan]

Well as the saying goes:

"See ya, wouldn't wanna be ya, drivin around in a KIA, make sure ya don't wrap it around a treeya, or we won't be seein ya no mo", hehehehehe

Good luck with the Toyo, I hope it serves you well, or at least better than the Expy's did anyways !

 

[SyndicateZ]

Yep, but it’s a front-line vehicle from a Mercedes/Volvo dealer that has impeccable online reviews, with a 3 year certified warranty, so I’m hopeful that it’s as-described.

The 3 year warranty is clutch . Nicely done

 

[2018ExpyPlatinum]

I feel everyone's pain about what to buy. I've looked for over a year and can't find anything as nice, unless it costs over $85K. The depreciation right now is frustrating. I swear I'm losing a $1000 a month. I thought that by now, being 6 years old, it would slow down. Per KBB, it's now down to about $28K. I'm concerned about reliability on anything new right now. It seems like a crap shoot. I think the next one might be a Toyota or a overpriced Lexus. I wish you well.

 

[bb37]

Depreciation doesn't manifest itself as money out of your pocket until you try to sell the vehicle. It's like "losing money" when the stock market drops--you don't actually lose any money until you sell the stock.

Automobiles depreciate. That's a given. We all make generally stupid money decisions when we finance a depreciating asset. One way to avoid getting "hurt" by depreciation is to limit how much of a new vehicle you finance. Frankly, if you are getting "upside down" on a car loan, you either bought too much car at the outset or didn't put enough down.

For those of you looking at Toyota or Lexus, they are not immune from producing vehicles with problems. Just ask the 100,000 Toyota Tundra or Lexus LX owners who are getting new engines.