Ford oil change mileage.

[Bmac1955]

Ford on my Ford Pass estimated 9000 miles left till needed to be changed. I'm not sure what calculations they are using. I generally have the dealership change the O&F every 3500 miles. Weird.

 

[2020FordRaptor]

Ford sets that way to long. Think they say every 10k miles which is stupid.

 

[SyndicateZ]

manufacturers now say you can wait 10,000 before oil change in hopes the uneducated customers engines explode sooner and the dealers can get more money from engine replacement/more frequent new car sales.

 

[BigOleFordFan]

manufacturers now say you can wait 10,000 before oil change in hopes the uneducated customers engines explode sooner and the dealers can get more money from engine replacement/more frequent new car sales.

HAHAHAH, good ole stealerships, gotta luv 'em............n.O.t.....

Anyways, based on the math in that pic, yes it was apparently set at 10k, and since your vehicle is relatively new, is a tad too long IMO....

Hell, even with my '011, I change it every 5-7k, using Premium Full Synthetic from either Mobile1, Castrol GTX, or Penzoil, neveranottaproblemo, but I don't go off-road, tow anything or haul stuff any heavier than perhaps some lumber or bags of top soil, mulch etc...

 

[Left Coast Geek]

Mine appears to be a little smarter than a fixed mileage. lots of short trips accelerates it. long highway trips only, and it is closer to 10k.

 

[tuckr2]

Personally, from what I’ve read the longevity of these engines warrants regularly oil changes. I also have a 2018 f150 with the ecoboost I change every 5000 miles or less if I’m hauling my travel trailer for any significant distances. Cheaper to be safe than sorry.

 

[Fastcar]

These turbo's run real close tolerances. Imo, it would be smart and also cheap insurance to drop it and filter every 5K. Or send it to Blackstone for analysis.

 

[Rednecked]

Wait till it hits 50%. That’s roughly 5k miles.

 

[Scooter455]

I change between 4,000 and 6,000 miles on my 2019 EB F-150, 2022 Platinum Expedition and the 2023 Limited Expedition. The Expedition get done at Ford for warranty requirements but my F1 i use AMSOIL OE. 5-W30.

 

[Avian]

Mine appears to be a little smarter than a fixed mileage. lots of short trips accelerates it. long highway trips only, and it is closer to 10k.

You go on and believe that rubbish. 3,000 miles on heavy duty/ severe, and 5,000 miles normal duty. That's IF you plan NOT to be faced with a bad engine before it's time!

 

[Danm355]

I don't understand why Ford would recommend 10,000 oil change especially if the vehicle is still under warranty. If anything happens to the engine Ford has to fix it.

 

[Happy Dog]

Dealers and oil companies love the 1950/‘60/‘70 3,000 mile oil change.
Gives them three times to rip you off vs the manufacture recommendation of 10,000 miles.
Perhaps the automotive engineers know what they’re doing.

 

[fgcolonel]

I have the 6 turbo
My dealer said to change it when it got down to 20% of oil life .I checked my records and that has been between 6600 and 7800 miles. With one anomaly of 9300 which was one extended month long trip from Kentucky to California up the coast and back home across the northern border to Minnesota and back home
Had it changed two days before we left and the day after we got home
9300 miles still said 46% of life left but I had it changed. Expedition was only about 4 months old then and the oil change before we left was the first oil change. The truck now has little over 70K with no issues other than cam phasers which Ford handled.

 

[Fastcar]

Dealers and oil companies love the 1950/‘60/‘70 3,000 mile oil change.
Gives them three times to rip you off vs the manufacture recommendation of 10,000 miles.
Perhaps the automotive engineers know what they’re doing.

Rule of thumb back then was oil and filter at 5K. Then Penske started quick oil change's and it became 3K. Kinda like K$N, one hell of an advertising campaign.

 

[Jerald Cook]

I'm at 90k on my 2020 Expedition Max and I've sent samples from every oil change off to Blackstone Labs to be analyzed. I always run Mobile1 Extended Protection. The first oil change was around 6k miles with the factory oil. Analysis came back good and was told I could extend the oil change interval. Running Mobile1, I added about 1k miles to the subsequent oil change intervals, and even at 10k service intervals, the reports come back the oil could go longer. I'm under warranty (I have a Ford ESP warranty to 125k) so I won't go over 10k miles, and usually try and change it around 8k because oil changes are cheap insurance. My vehicle is driven pretty easy, very little towing, few short trips, etc., so I have no problem going 8-10k between oil changes. Rarely will the oil change indicator want to change the oil before 10k, once it was in the single digit percentage around 8k. Even that instance the oil analysis came back fine. I suppose time will tell if that's a good strategy as I'm planning on owning the vehicle quite a while.

 

[Dice Roll]

There’s a lot of fretting about this topic. Parse this forum and you’ll see the engine has little trouble other than phasers. I’ve not heard anything in person about an engine going completely down either. Most, or all, of the recommendations for charging early don’t have anything they are based on beyond that person feeling it necessary. I’m sure there are people out there that have blown up the 3.5, just like any engine. They don’t seem to post here and I haven’t seen a teardown thread where anything has been proven to be the fault of dirty oil.

Nonetheless, people have very hardened views and are not going to change their patterns based on anything posted. As for me, I’ll keep on changing when it’s convenient and not based on some set number or time other than not going over the monitor for warranty reasons. I’m waiting on the car that got 10k changes to blow up, especially now that it goes two years or more on oil and that’s suppose to be the death of it too. Or the 10 year old lawn mower to blow up that I still use that never even had the break in oil changed. Ever.

 

[dr2024]

In the family vehicle fleet (‘06 Expedition, ‘13 Odyssey, now also a ‘24 Expedition) several years ago I shortened intervals from 5k/conventional & 8k/synthetic respectively, to 4K/synthetic for everything.

Oil filters don’t get all the particulates and they don’t get the smallest particulates, so the only way to reduce that load is to drain & refill.

I’ve also come to believe that fresher additive packages (particularly with the better additive packs in synthetics) help reduce and prevent carbon buildup/sludge in piston ring grooves, variable valve timing systems, cylinder deactivation systems, etc.

Years ago I had an ‘88 Saab 900T (great car), and the one thing I would have done differently was run full synthetic oil instead of conventional. Turbos thermally work the oil really hard.

Several minutes of low but sustained boost, like cruising up through a low mountain pass, would get the turbo housing glowing cherry red at dusk - I remember pulling over to see if the Saab advertising were true, and it was. Impressive sight.

 

[ZigZagFred]

The farthest I would ever go between oil changes is 5,000 miles. Most of our driving is in-town with very few road miles. Therefore, we change oil with full synthetic every 3,000 miles.

 

[42pilot]

With 104,000 miles on the odometer, mine has been changed every 5,000 miles. The same people who brought you auto stop/start are recommending a ridiculous change interval - not for me. I think changing every 3,500 miles is too short, but its your car and is still good insurance if you pull a trailer or are in heavy city traffic. To date, my 3.5L, or for that matter, the car, has never been in the shop for a repair. Although, I hate - with a passion - the POS 10 sp transmission.

 

[Fastcar]

There’s a lot of fretting about this topic. Parse this forum and you’ll see the engine has little trouble other than phasers. I’ve not heard anything in person about an engine going completely down either. Most, or all, of the recommendations for charging early don’t have anything they are based on beyond that person feeling it necessary. I’m sure there are people out there that have blown up the 3.5, just like any engine. They don’t seem to post here and I haven’t seen a teardown thread where anything has been proven to be the fault of dirty oil.

Nonetheless, people have very hardened views and are not going to change their patterns based on anything posted. As for me, I’ll keep on changing when it’s convenient and not based on some set number or time other than not going over the monitor for warranty reasons. I’m waiting on the car that got 10k changes to blow up, especially now that it goes two years or more on oil and that’s suppose to be the death of it too. Or the 10 year old lawn mower to blow up that I still use that never even had the break in oil changed. Ever.

Ya made me laugh with your last paragraph. I couldn't agree more.