Hybrids Confirmed

[Polo08816]

The 5.0 V8, Hybrid, and 3.5 EB are all rated an identical 24 MPG highway for a 4x4 on a 2024 F-150. The hybrid doesn’t help on the highway, it’s 500 pounds heavier. That is just dead weight on the highway. Generally my V8 does better on gas than my cousins Hybrid on the highway by a half mile per gallon if rolling through hills. Towing my V8 does 2-3 mpg better than his hybrid.

The hybrid really shines around town. They get 19+ in town.

The hybrid’s smaller gas tank is a penalty when towing too.

 

[ROBERT BONNER]

My neighbor traded his 2022 F150 with 3.5 Ecoboost in for a 2023 Hybrid Ecoboost (powerboost). He just ordered a brand new 2024 F150 with standard Ecoboost because he said he absolutely would never recoup his initial investment on the added cost of the Powerboost. He said is got 1 MPG better in the summer, and a couple MPG WORSE in the summer, so there was absolutely no fuel savings for him. He said when it gets to like 20 mph it kicks the electric over to gas, so you can't ever really use the electric part much. He drives all highway miles in Northern, WI, so in this condition its absolutely not worth it. Plus WI has an additional license fee to pay annually for the Hybrid, so that's also lost. he said it had more power on demand if you hammered it, but he wasn't impressed enough to pay for that again.
His 2024 still hasn't arrived yet.

Not sure how you neighbor was driving his Powerboost but to say that it was worse than the non-hybrid version is incorrect. I daily drive a SSV F150 Powerboost for work. It sees lots of stationary work with engine on plus thousands of miles per month on the road. These Powerboosts can take some hard work and provide excellent fuel economy. On average this thing will produce 21-22 mpg mixed use every 7,500 miles (between oil changes). Highway mountain driving it gets 23-24 mpg, flat terrain highway it gets 24-28mpg. Highway towing averages 12-15 mpg. Highway speeds average 65-80 mpg. Urban driving nets 25-30 mpg in stop and go. This was all in normal mode and tow mode. I’m sure I could get better mpg in eco mode, if I used it.

Of note the hybrid works at speeds up to 65 mph, I can even get it to activate on long recents at 70+ mph by just lightly tapping the brakes to activate it.

The mild hybrid setup in the F150 is great and would be a welcome addition to the expedition.

My guess is your neighbor just didn’t feel comfortable with the hybrid and wanted an excuse so he felt better getting rid of it.

I Agree with Apex. My wife and I frequently drive our '22 F150 PB and '20 Expedition MAX together from NC to MI and back for long hunting trips. The F150 PB gets 2 mpg better on the highway at identical (high) speeds. And there is no sense driving the Expedition in the city if the F150 PB is available. The difference on short runs can be 8 mpg in favor of the 1000 lb heavier hybrid. My cabin in Northern Michigan is completely off grid. We power it with the PB. We logged 200 hrs generator time this fall which equates to about 12 additional hours engine run time. It's great, no noise, no gas cans, no extra engine to maintain, and uses less gas than a portable generator. I don't mind not having a plug in. In many parts of the country (Michigan is one) it costs more to drive on home charge than gas due to the increasing electric rates. One less thing to trip over/install in he garage.

 

[cooldude919]

I Agree with Apex. My wife and I frequently drive our '22 F150 PB and '20 Expedition MAX together from NC to MI and back for long hunting trips. The F150 PB gets 2 mpg better on the highway at identical (high) speeds. And there is no sense driving the Expedition in the city if the F150 PB is available. The difference on short runs can be 8 mpg in favor of the 1000 lb heavier hybrid. My cabin in Northern Michigan is completely off grid. We power it with the PB. We logged 200 hrs generator time this fall which equates to about 12 additional hours engine run time. It's great, no noise, no gas cans, no extra engine to maintain, and uses less gas than a portable generator. I don't mind not having a plug in. In many parts of the country (Michigan is one) it costs more to drive on home charge than gas due to the increasing electric rates. One less thing to trip over/install in he garage.

Agreed as well. I have a 22 PB and wife has an 18 expedition. Expedition city MPG is basically....trash. I was eagerly awaiting the 25 expedition hybrid, so i was pretty disappointed when it didn't launch after all the chatter and the union deal/comments seemingly confirming it. I wondered if once they decided to cancel the future 3 row all electric that was planned, they actually wanted to make a plug in hybrid expedition, and instead of launching a PB equivalent, they went back to the drawing board to do a plug in hybrid, and just carried over the ICE ecoboost in 25, leaving plug in for maybe a mid cycle refresh?

Keeping an eye out for deals on 24's now, which im seeing 10k-15k off, so for that much of a discount, a 24 over the 25 seems pretty attractive, unless you really want more screen in the dash or the split gate.