My 15 ecoboost saga....

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    Howdy folks. Just wanted to share my story with our 2015 limited with ecoboost. About a month ago I noticed that the truck seemed down on power. I had just crossed 50,000 miles (I am the original owner) and it just felt under powered. About a week later I get an engine code (I believe P209). I had the code read and it came back as under boost. I took it to my dealer as im still under factory powertrain warranty. The finding were something to the tune of one of my turbos had rusted and wasnt spinning fast enough. They stated it was a known issue and the new turbo addressed the issue. They had my truck for two weeks to replace the one turbo. I personally spoke with the tech to ensure the other turbo wasnt suffering from the same issue. He said the other turbo was fine and he installed some type of screen that Ford does now to address the rust issue. All was well with the world, so I thought...
    Exactly one week later I could swear it felt under powered again. The next day sure enough I get a check engine light AGAIN... Had the code read and it is the exact same code as before. I dropped the truck off this morning back to Ford. I have a feeling the second turbo failed just like the first.
    We had planned on keeping this truck until just before it hit 100k but now I am nervous as hell. Has anyone had turbo issues? Considering this was the first year for ecoboost on the expedition I have a feeling we bought the begining of the learning curve.
     
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    The ecoboost in the expedition is essentially the same as the one that's been in the F150 since 2011. I've not read about many issues with the turbos in the pickups but by the huge production numbers of this engine from 11 to 15 in the pickups and 15 to 17 in the expeditions, statistically you're bound to see some failures. As of June 2016 Ford had sold over a million ecoboost pickups and even a 1% failure is equivalent to 10k vehicles. You're warranty will cover the turbos but you might consider increasing your powertrain coverage to 100k miles if you plan on keeping the vehicle that long.
     
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    The powertrain warranty is a good idea with a turbo because of the cost of a repair. I got a four year one on a 2010 with 94,000 miles... It cost me $1,300 from Lombard Ford on-line.

    If you stick with V-8's you don't have these worries, but then you pay extra for fuel and the thing could throw a rod anyway. Machines do these things.
     
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    You've got 2 spankin' new turbos for free. Fuggedaboutit.
     
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    rusty turbo??? hot side could get surface rust but enough to stop? maybe bypass valve was stuck open from some sort of contamination by oil coking
    or no oil getting to the bearing?
    screen?? for what. these are questions i would ask
     
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    Well the truck is STILL at Ford. They dont think it's the other turbo. Now they think it's the timing chain. Seriously, a timing chain at 50,000 miles?
     
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    "They think" is what they say.

    "You're paying for our training program" is what I hear.
     
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    The OP did not get two new turbos for free (see post #6).

    He purchased the vehicle new, which means he paid for the warranty that is included with the vehicle (basic and power train).

    The turbochargers have no scheduled maintenance and I believe that failure at 50,000 miles is a sign of poor quality.

    The Ford dealer took two weeks to replace one turbocharger, which is about a 6-7 hour job.

    The vehicle is now back at the dealer for more repairs.
     
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    They are now blaming the timing chain failure on my oil change intervals. I do oil changes every 6,000 miles with Amsoil Signature series (the best they make). They are saying regardless of what oil is used it needs to be changed at 5,000 miles as they are seeing more and more timing chain failures due to prolonged oil changes on the 3.5's.

    They are still covering it under warranty but who knows how long this one is going to take. I went ahead and ponied up the $1,900 for the premium Ford extended warranty for up to 101,000 miles....
     
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    Sounds like FORD is all over the map on oil changes. In the Owners Manual they specify a few different recc oil types to use ... and recent news is they changed the viscosity to use. (but I never got a letter)? The Owners manual is all over the map on oil changes, but some lawyer threw in the 5000 number in there somewhere as CYA, just never go past 10,000? Its BS. If FORD timing chains cant handle 6000 mile oil change interval then the Engineers and Accountants at Ford suck DD and should go find a new job.
    oilchange 2015.jpg
     

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