New-To-Me 2018 Expedition Platinum - Mistake?

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Thank you to everyone who commented. Definitely a bummer and sad to say, we no longer own this vehicle. The other night we were driving and noticed the vehicle was struggling to get power going up a hill with the turbo cutting in and out...seemed like it was misfiring/hesitating under moderate load. Then I went to go pass someone 15 minutes later and RPM hit about 3000 and just sat there jerking before finally kicking in seconds later. It was too late to finish the pass so I ended up following a guy going 10 under for several miles until he finally turned off. Was concerning. No blinking CEL but was clearly misfiring. That combined with a vibration at 75 MPH and whistling at speed put my wife over the edge who kinda fought me on buying it in the first place. My wife asked me to return it...believe it or not, the dealership we worked with was fantastic and obliged. We lost our super low APR financing and we're now back at square one to find something new. That being said, we really liked the Expedition and feel like its space along with low-end torque and power when running correctly was exactly what we needed to tow our camper. We had a fairly bad experience with a previous Ford vehicle that ended up getting lemoned after nearly 3 years of Ford stonewalling and refusing to fix a defective engine and transmission (needed two engines by the time it was bought back and the squawking transmission never got replaced). My wife said she would not endure that again or be willing to take the inevitable loss.

I felt crazy looking at a Ford again but with the exception of not having air suspension, I personally think the Expedition is a better overall package than the Yukon/Tahoe. That being said, prices are crazy for the new ones and they seem to be almost impossible to find much like the GM competitors. There's a 2021 Platinum they want MSRP for (like 80K)...definitely not the same deal as our CPO 2018 but it seems like 2021 have been doing better other than the fire recall. My only alternative is a 6.2 based GM that will cost me north of 80K for even lower trims if I want to get one now (that's if I can find one). Or...I wait for the 23 Sequoia...which in my opinion landed like a dud. Thanks again for the tips...I'm still hoping we can be Expedition owners...just not the one we had.
 

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The forum is a good place to learn about the potential challenges and solutions for the vehicle. However it is unlikely that you will experience ALL the challenges discussed on your vehicle. I have been fortunate and have not had many challenges, however when I did the conversations on this platform enabled me to have a more informed and/or principled based conversation with the dealership.

Remember, common good vehicle maintenance is the greatest starting point (wash, wax, lube, oil change ... etc.). An example, when I first purchased my 2019, it had been on the dealer lot for 10 months. The roof rattled, the floorboards worked whenever they wanted to, and on the highway the wind noise from the drivers door sounded like a train was coming through. From the forum I learned about the sunroof maintenance, cleaning the retractable floorboard and cleaning and lubing the door seals. Now I do those things regularly and have had no more issues with those items. Good place, if you temper what you read/hear :)
 
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People on the forums are either car enthusiasts or owners having issues. The majority of owners don’t have issues and don’t visit the forums.

As a result, you will see all possible problems reported here in the forum, but not all of them would affect all vehicles.

Based on my experience being a member of this forum, the 2018 is not less reliable than 2019-2020 (except very early builds). I see the same issues occurring for all the years. I excluded the 2021 since I think they fixed the cam phaser issue by then.

The hatch opening on its own doesn’t happen while the vehicle is in motion, so there is no safety risk. Also there is a TSB on that, so the dealer can fix it.
When we first got our 19 max platinum in April, I poured over the posts here. It gave me anxiety about our purchase. I was worried about every little thing. But you are right, people come here to post about problems. So of course that's what you see. All vehicles, across all brands have issues. I love every square inch of my mom bus. And I shouldn't let naysayers spoil it.
 

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I can feel your anxiety. I felt similarly after reading this forum. I don't know if the worry is really worth it. Certainly some legit horror stories on here but also some good ones. You can program the rear hatch in the menu to no longer be auto if you want. I find I can stop it quickly cause it is usually when we are standing there. It is startling and annoying but manageable once you can anticipate it and it stops with not a lot of pressure.
The tranny hesitation is probably it learning. Had mine reset recently due to the hard shift from park but it didn't really help that but did intro more hesitation. It is smoothing out I feel. The hard shift from park is something I just consider the ebrake more and it doesn't do it as often.

This engine power and seat capacity is unrivaled in my opinion. I have found my non CPO purchase at 45k to still be a good one. Got some things I want to do and probably will keep my ESP money and then some with the cam phaser stuff. I love driving it so I am going to stick with it. Just my 2 cents. I know some people here want to drop it quickly but I will hang on for as long as we need it.
 

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Ordered a new 2018, Limited, delivered in April 2019, now have 71k miles and my truck has been wonderful. Ford did replace my cam phasers once, water pump began leaking and was replaced, have done rear brakes and replaced tires.
Enjoy your Platinum!
 

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Turned our 2018 Mac Limited in at 34,000 miles. Was going to buy the lease out because we had Not had any issues with ours the entire time and could not find either another Expedition or F150 available in the trim we wanted. we ended up with a 2022 Timberline.

Back to the 18. We did not have a single issue with our truck during the three years we owned it. I believe I took the truck in twice under warranty. Once for the sunroof not closing and a second to replace the middle brake light and the front camera squirter developed a drool.

We took a number of long road trips. used to buy only Suburbans. The 18 was our first big Ford and I won’t go back to anything else.

Good luck on your road trip.
 

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Thank you to everyone who commented. Definitely a bummer and sad to say, we no longer own this vehicle. The other night we were driving and noticed the vehicle was struggling to get power going up a hill with the turbo cutting in and out...seemed like it was misfiring/hesitating under moderate load. Then I went to go pass someone 15 minutes later and RPM hit about 3000 and just sat there jerking before finally kicking in seconds later. It was too late to finish the pass so I ended up following a guy going 10 under for several miles until he finally turned off. Was concerning. No blinking CEL but was clearly misfiring. That combined with a vibration at 75 MPH and whistling at speed put my wife over the edge who kinda fought me on buying it in the first place. My wife asked me to return it...believe it or not, the dealership we worked with was fantastic and obliged. We lost our super low APR financing and we're now back at square one to find something new. That being said, we really liked the Expedition and feel like its space along with low-end torque and power when running correctly was exactly what we needed to tow our camper. We had a fairly bad experience with a previous Ford vehicle that ended up getting lemoned after nearly 3 years of Ford stonewalling and refusing to fix a defective engine and transmission (needed two engines by the time it was bought back and the squawking transmission never got replaced). My wife said she would not endure that again or be willing to take the inevitable loss.

I felt crazy looking at a Ford again but with the exception of not having air suspension, I personally think the Expedition is a better overall package than the Yukon/Tahoe. That being said, prices are crazy for the new ones and they seem to be almost impossible to find much like the GM competitors. There's a 2021 Platinum they want MSRP for (like 80K)...definitely not the same deal as our CPO 2018 but it seems like 2021 have been doing better other than the fire recall. My only alternative is a 6.2 based GM that will cost me north of 80K for even lower trims if I want to get one now (that's if I can find one). Or...I wait for the 23 Sequoia...which in my opinion landed like a dud. Thanks again for the tips...I'm still hoping we can be Expedition owners...just not the one we had.

I actually had the same issue with mine, but couldn't find out what was causing it. Whenever we'd go up north I couldn't pass anyone going uphill. Literally would have the pedal to the floor and could feel like the engine/turbos were struggling. I would watch the turbos and experience what you mentioned -- a bunch of boost would apply, then it would drop to nothing. Rinse and repeat. What fixed the issue for me was when they replaced my cam phasers. Not sure if it was related, but after they changed all the parts for that I haven't had an issue since.
 

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