Should I buy 4th Gen?

[positivemojo]

Is the 4th Gen Expedition reliable? Will it make it to 300,000 miles with excellent maintenance and care?

I love my 2008 Expedition, 5.4L 3 valve. Yeah, I had to do the timing chain, but it purrs like a kitten and is at 150K and is reliable as the day is long. I'm concerned about all of the posts about 4th Gen.

What are your thoughts?

 

[BigOleFordFan]

Well, personally, I would run the 08 till it dies (like I'm gonna do with my '011), unless somebody offers you/me a whole bunch of moolah for it of course....

And like you, after reading through a lot of the 4th gen posts over the past few years, I will NOT buy one, unless absolutely necessary

 

[positivemojo]

Well, personally, I would run the 08 till it dies (like I'm gonna do with my '011), unless somebody offers you/me a whole bunch of moolah for it of course....

And like you, after reading through a lot of the 4th gen posts over the past few years, I will NOT buy one, unless absolutely necessary

I agree. I pulled the radio a couple of years ago and put in a Boss unit with Apple CarPlay and a backup camera. The only thing I'm missing is the adaptive cruise control for long trips. Just took it from Dallas to Florida a month ago and it ran like a champ - super comfortable and massive storage for boogie boards and beach stuff. Plus - I don't worry about it getting dinged after paying $80K. Paid for long ago.

 

[rd618]

New cars all around today are plauged with issues.
Ford is currently leading the charge in number of recalls, but others are not much better.

 

[BigOleFordFan]

Ford is currently leading the charge in number of recalls

Well, as Cmdr Worf said while looking up at the Borg & the deflector dish that was floating away: "Recall THIS" (well sorta) - (from ST: First Contact)

But yea, the recalls do seem to keep coming almost daily/weekly/monthly, and you wonder why I would NOT buy a '23, '24 and especially not a '25

 

[Benztech]

New cars all around today are plauged with issues.
Ford is currently leading the charge in number of recalls, but others are not much better.

Ford has always had a lot of recalls but I actually like this. They have problems but seem to address them instead of avoiding them like other manufacturers, cough GM cough.

 

[99WhiteC5Coupe]

Ford has always had a lot of recalls but I actually like this. They have problems but seem to address them instead of avoiding them like other manufacturers, cough GM cough.

What safety issues has GM avoided? I’m aware of the defective ignition switch debacle from some time ago, which caused numerous crashes, injures and deaths.

Ford has issued a MASSIVE number of safety recalls for the past three years, and leads in 2025. Their safety recalls involve millions of vehicles. All safety issues.

This is a classic example of systemic failures in quality and reliability in many levels of the company (and doesn’t include the poor quality issues that are not classified as safety-related).

 

[Calidad]

Modern days like today? 6.2L engines with failed connector pins putting holes in blocks? Estimated 500,000 units by investment firms trying to mitigate GM investment losses? Yeah kinda a problem. Neighbor just got GM to buy his Yukon back after the glitchy transmission quit at 110,000. Full buy back because its been problematic since day one with dealer visits.

Ford has its own parts quality issues also phasers, Transmission drum etc.

Pick your poison and run with it. If you have a vehicle with no problems run it till its done.

 

[Benztech]

What safety issues has GM avoided?

Not just picking on GM, just all I took the time to list. All manufacturers try to avoid them. My experience working on Ford, Mazda, and Mercedes makes me believe Ford handles them more proactively and with less pushback. Although I wasn't a GM tech I have friends who are. Just because there's far less recalls doesn't mean there aren't skeletons in the closet. Feel free to jump on other forums and see the myriad of problems all manufacturers have.

 

[Jettix2]

I would avoid the 4th gen Expedition/Navigator at all costs. I had a 2018 and 2019 and they were both super problematic. We bought a 2019 Toyota Sequoia that we just put 10,000 miles on in 6 months and it’s been perfect (80k on the odo now). The new Sequoias are not as reliable FYI.