Tire recommendations for 22"

[rick619]

Looking for tire recommendations for my wife's 2019 Expedition. It has the OEM 285/45/22 which have lasted about 55K miles so far. No real complaints. Street driving in CA, some rain but never snow. Figure if I don't stop her, my wife would go to the tire shop and by the cheapest China special she could find. $99 China Pro with a 5000 mile warranty? Ship it!

So looking for something that will last a long time and provide a smooth ride. Looks are not important. Pulling up that size on America's Tire, for brands I have used in the past, I see Cooper Discoverer HTP II are $255 each. Toyo Proxes STIII are $211. Goodyear Touring, $230. Hankook Dynapro are $257.

From my experience, I would go with the Cooper. Though I had their offroad tires on my Jeep, so not familiar with these street tires.

Let me know what you've been happy with.

 

[BigOleFordFan]

There are many threads here about tires, with many recommendations, so some searching would be in order, but go to the mfgr's website first, then filter with your location to find a dealer, since the tire shop's websites tend to push you to whatever tire they are getting the highest commissions on in any given week/month, which may or may not be the tires you are really looking for...especially @the Tire Crack & Discoint Tire...

My 011 EL came with Wrangler SR-A's @ 275/55/20 (not bad per se, but only last about 30-35K), but I will probably be going with Michelin Defenders as soon as they wear out...and I've read here that the Coopers aren't bad either..

It depends on your budget, but there are a LOT of choices in the price ranges you listed...and a lot more if you wanna take out a 2nd mortgage on your house

I would suggest staying away from da Kook's, as I know too many people that have had a lot of problems with them...

Please post back with your choice & pics of same !

 

[ib_jigged]

We went with Pirelli Scorpion AS Plus 3 and could not be happier. Smooth riding and very quiet.

 

[BigOleFordFan]

Looks like some nice tires, thanks for the pics.

I will be comparing them this weekend to the Michelin Defenders at my trusted local shop, and then decide on which ones to get

 

[rick619]

Looks like some nice tires, thanks for the pics.

I will be comparing them this weekend to the Michelin Defenders at my trusted local shop, and then decide on which ones to get

From searching on here, the Pirelli and Michelin appear to be the most popular. I have a Ram 1500 and the Michelin are a popular replacement as well.

 

[ib_jigged]

The rim protection on the Pirelli's plus the price was what changed my mind after looking at these and the Michelin Defender LTX MS2's. My dealer ordered in both for me to compare side by side and the Pirelli's won.

Even though the rim protection is not 100% effective, it just looks like the rim fits the tire better in this area and doesn't allow any foreign objects the probability of getting into the bead area. Someone in household turned a little early in the parking lot a week after install and I believe this actually did the trick of saving a wheel scuff as the lip area of the tire just over the rim had a little rub on it. The eyes said it all when they looked at me as they went over the berm.

 

[rick619]

The rim protection on the Pirelli's plus the price was what changed my mind after looking at these and the Michelin Defender LTX MS2's. My dealer ordered in both for me to compare side by side and the Pirelli's won.

Even though the rim protection is not 100% effective, it just looks like the rim fits the tire better in this area and doesn't allow any foreign objects the probability of getting into the bead area. Someone in household turned a little early in the parking lot a week after install and I believe this actually did the trick of saving a wheel scuff as the lip area of the tire just over the rim had a little rub on it. The eyes said it all when they looked at me as they went over the berm.

Well she did kill one of her tires in her previous car by mis-judging where a curb was while going into a parking lot. So rim protection sounds like a good idea.

 

[BigOleFordFan]

Well, I compared the Michelins & Pirellis, as well as Coopers and BFG's side by side this weekend, and I'm goin with the big P when the time comes....they just look like a better built & sturdier design overall, and if I get the curb thing with them, then that's just a bonus IMHO

 

[ib_jigged]

Well, I compared the Michelins & Pirellis, as well as Coopers and BFG's side by side this weekend, and I'm goin with the big P when the time comes....they just look like a better built & sturdier design overall, and if I get the curb thing with them, then that's just a bonus IMHO

I agree, side by side with the Michelins and I was sold on the Pirelli's. They are also a great looking tire as well! 2000 miles on ours already and extremely happy with them!

 

[LG_123]

We just changed our Summer set from the stock Hankooks to a set of Kumho Crugen HT51s and they're a massive improvement. Both quieter and more comfortable. They were $700 cheaper than Michelin Defender's and came more highly recommended from my shop.

 

[BigOleFordFan]

We just changed our Summer set from the stock Hankooks to a set of Kumho Crugen HT51s and they're a massive improvement. Both quieter and more comfortable. They were $700 cheaper than Michelin Defender's and came more highly recommended from my shop.

IMHO, the tires off my lawnmower would be a significant upgrade from da Kooks

I know alot of people who have had serious tread reliability/sidewall failure issues with them over the past several years...

 

[GT350driver]

From searching on here, the Pirelli and Michelin appear to be the most popular. I have a Ram 1500 and the Michelin are a popular replacement as well.

Im on my second year and 15,000+ mikes on Michelin Cross Climate. Excellent water shedding and the quietest tire I've ever run. BTW, Im in the lake erie lake effect snow belt and these tires handled the snow and ice wonderfully.

 

[rslynes]

I have the Defender LTX M/S 2's as I do some mild to moderate offroad (up through Level 4, although have done some 5's) and they seem to work better for that than the Pirelli (I've tried both in those situations - Michelins are better in the mud for sure). If you're only on highways with occasional dirt road driving, then the Pirelli Scorpions do really well and are quieter.

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[3rd Expyowner123]

I have the Pirelli’s and I love them. Michelin’s are significantly more expensive, but I suspect will have longer tread life. Tire life heavily depends on your driving habits and mix between open road cruising and making lots of turns via around town driving. Seen lots of comments regarding short life with Pirelli’s which was true on my 2008 Expedition which came with OEM Pirelli’s. My current A/S 3’a have 20k miles and are wearing evenly and perform like new remaining quiet and smooth. I replace tires before they get close to 4mm, guessing I’ll get 50k miles in these.

 

[Briguy6]

I'm also looking at some new tires to replace wearing stock General Grabber HTS 60s. We live in Los Angeles but drive up to Big Bear in snow and ice during winter weekends, but I have chains and tire socks( new haven't tried them). So it seems like I'm down to the Pireli AS3s vs the weather active. Unfortunately cause I'm and LA driver I also drive on freeways in hot summers fairly fast, but no rally race cornering. Any recommendations/ experience on the weather actives handling a lot of dry and occasional wet or snow? Any recommendations for an LA driver? Anyone tow with these tires? We have a 22 limited SPP. Thanks for the advice.

 

[Calidad]

For snow, great wet performance and durability beyond basic highway tires these have been amazing. About 1mpg hit at 70mph+ over the high efficiency highway tires. On my second set 55,000-60,000 mile tire easily. Smooth at 80+mph they are a AT hybrid tire. You get AT performance without the negatives of a full on loud chunky AT tire. Great in the snow
The Pirelli’s always seem to wear fast and decline in traction quickly as they wear. Add a heavily loaded full sized suv and I never see anyone buy them a second time. Just a heads up

 

[Calidad]

I'm also looking at some new tires to replace wearing stock General Grabber HTS 60s. We live in Los Angeles but drive up to Big Bear in snow and ice during winter weekends, but I have chains and tire socks( new haven't tried them). So it seems like I'm down to the Pireli AS3s vs the weather active. Unfortunately cause I'm and LA driver I also drive on freeways in hot summers fairly fast, but no rally race cornering. Any recommendations/ experience on the weather actives handling a lot of dry and occasional wet or snow? Any recommendations for an LA driver? Anyone tow with these tires? We have a 22 limited SPP. Thanks for the advice.

BFG trail Terrain on my second set. Norcal and socal for us. Amazing tire on my second set. Great in the sierra cement and handles the hot summer trips without excessive wear like Michelin and Pirelli. Smooth at CA highway speeds handling is sharper than the squishy terrible oem tires. Ride quality is similar. Traction difference is MASSIVE!!!
If you were doing Big bear on those trash oem tires these BFGs literally make the Expedition a completely different animal in the snow. I could go places in 2wd with the bfgs that was nearly impossible in 4x4 on the stock tires. SF-LA and back family visits 22-23mpg average 70-75mph is typical. We lost maybe .5-1mpg at 70-75 vs the oem tires. The biggest thing was wet traction literally night and day from terrible to virtually no difference dry or wet.
BFG and Michelin come out of the same design center BFGs typically do better in our hotter weather different rubber compound vs the softer Michelin and Pirelli. Colder Michigan temps? Michelin all the way

This is on a heavy tow pack Expedition. The standard should easily still land in the 23-24mpg zone for long highway stuff. Sleek roof box seems to be 1-2mph hit on mileage averages on long trips

 

[rick619]

My wife still hasn't bought tires lol. I was looking at the Black Friday specials and saw these at Walmart. Seem really good for the price, $155 each. 60K warranty.

Anyone try these? I read that Walmart has exclusive rights to some of the Cooper models. They didn't have what I want for my Ram, but these are the size she has on the Expedition.

Robot or human?

 

[BigOleFordFan]

My wife still hasn't bought tires lol. I was looking at the Black Friday specials and saw these at Walmart. Seem really good for the price, $155 each. 60K warranty.

Anyone try these? I read that Walmart has exclusive rights to some of the Cooper models. They didn't have what I want for my Ram, but these are the size she has on the Expedition.

Robot or human?

NO....
no.......
& N.friggin.O.....

I would strongly suggest you reconsider buying ANY tires for any vehicle from Wallyworld, period....

I made that mistake a few years ago, thinking I was saving a few $$.....wrong answer..... the Goodyear tires I got were rated at 60k miles and lasted about 15K (on a vehicle that was only 4 yrs old & always proper rotate/balance/maintenance ect), and when I tried to get them to do a prorated swap for new/better ones, they basically told me to *pound sand* and to contact the mfgr with any such nonsense....

Later, I learned why they were so cheap...simply because the tires were made specifically for them, to reach a certain price point & profit %....which means they cut some serious corners in the rubber compounds and the steel belts....

Oh and to top it all off, when I contacted Goodyear, they said pound sand also, as according to them, wallyworld is NOT considered to be an "authorized" goodyear dealer, even though they pretend to be, so the warranty would not be honored under any circumstances....

And obviously my next step was to contact my lawyer, who said he could pursue it, but for ONLY $500 worth of useless rubber, it would not make financial sense to do so, so I let it slide and vowed to warn anyone & everyone who I think is even thinking about getting tires from there until I am rotting in the ground...

Also, there are MUCH better tires for SUV's, many of which have already been mentioned in this thread. YES, they will cost you more upfront, but will last ALOT longer, ride better, quieter and safer under practically any circumstances...

 

[ateam68]

We went with Pirelli Scorpion AS Plus 3 and could not be happier. Smooth riding and very quiet. View attachment 82618View attachment 82619

We had these on my wife's Rx350.awd. Got 20K miles on them before they looked like the treads were gone and americas tire said we needed new ones. Maybe an anomaly but Pirelli credit all but 100$ of the total tire purchase.