Window motor and/or regulator

[Bob13]

1999 Expedition XLT 4x4 5.4L

Drivers side window is up and does not function. When pushing the window button I hear the relay clicking.
There was none of the typical grinding noises when the regulator goes bad. I assume that it is the motor only. All the other windows work.
I understand it is possible to change the motor without removing the regulator. I know I will need to tape the window up. It seems that I saw something
about the regulator spring releasing when the motor is removed. Is the correct? If so how do I avoid that happening? I have replaced regulator/motors on
too many occasions on other vehicles, one being a 1999 Crown Victoria.

Any thoughts or suggestions will be appreciated.

Thanks in advance
Bob

 

[Yupster Dog]

I understand it is possible to change the motor without removing the regulator.

You still have to remove the regulator to change the motors out.

Having done both just the motor, and the motor and regulator,

it is way easier to just get the motor and regulator together and put in.

In detail Videos on YT

Note: if the window is going in the opposite direction you can reverse the wiring on the motor harness.

 

[Bob13]

I have always in the past replaced both motor and regulator. Somewhere I read that motor could be replaced without removing the regulator. I will just replace both as in the past.

Thanks for the response.
Bob

 

[Bob13]

After more investigation the motor can be removed without removing the regulator. See youtube video link below, about 6:45 minutes in. I removed my motor and started to test and clean it. After 25 years it still worked, but a bit slow, contact cleaner to the rescue. Put it back together all all works as it should.
If it decides to quit working I will replace the motor. I’ll post back if a new motor is needed in the future.
The nice thing about the regulator in my expedition there are no cables, it is all bars and rivets. So less to break.

https://youtu.be/s-KfKvKXCfI?si=FaBJTL-AKV1nHBXO

 

[Yupster Dog]

After more investigation the motor can be removed without removing the regulator.

Could have used this info a long time ago.
Great find!