Worried about Ecoboost longevity? Heres a 2.7L EB F-150 w/200,000 miles

[Sgt Darkness]

I liked TobyU’s comment, correct on everything. Also, it only took me two days to read it...

 

[rjdelp7]

None of these are odd part failures, these are piss-poor designs. Those trailing arms on the Expedition rust out because they had shoddy powder coating on them and because they are inferior thin stamped design which required them to need to be powder coated. Other designs on other vehicles with last the life of five vehicles with the exception of the bushings wearing out unless you got an accident and bent or broke one. It was a cheap lousy design probably to save money.
Loose plugs was a two-fold reason. 1 simply installation error and not tightening them all the same or tight enough , and two, not putting enough threads in the head so you can actually tighten them up without risking stripping out the threats. Once again piss poor.
Kraken takes goes back to Designed I'm against by using plastic. There is no way Plassey is going to last as long as aluminum. Give me alilumonum with a good quality gasket and we won't have a problem but they think plastic is good enough.
I blame all paint issues on one of two things, trying to cut corners and save money or government regulations. There is no reason with the climate controlled extremely clean and robotic paint booth we have now for vehicles to have paint and corrosion bubbling underneath issues. But yet they're coming back. We dealt with this decades ago and when basecoat clearcoat came along once they got to stop peeling and flaking off paint jobs have lasted longer than the old ones. Noticed you don't see so many dull gazed overlooking gray paint jobs anymore. And people don't really take care of their cars or wax them like they used to in the old days.
The new Camaros have a water based paint with a solvent-based clear. I have read that is illegal in the state of California to spray a solvent based color. The only thing that keeps these paint jobs even looking decent for three years would be the solvent based clear. As soon as someone comes up with a water-based clear that's simply just barely good enough California will be forced into that. I've already read that many people are taking their custom and classic cars across state lines and then Nevada to get old school high quality paint jobs.
The way painting is done changed a lot to over the past 15 years and I don't know exactly when there might be a quality reduction and to what correlation this is but I do know that used to put a lot more paint on cars. Then they went to the hvlp or whatever it is spray gun. They started using a lot less paint to paint a car with these. Now I know the complaint is they want the pressure to be low because they don't want the paint to blow around and bounce around off of the panel it's being sprayed on.
We never get a chance to perfect anything because some regulation comes along or somebody comes with a new way to save money and they screw it up all over again. Then they start improving that improving improving improving to get it to a decent standard maybe even better than what we had and then the cycle repeats itself.
The whole variable valve timing on the Fords is overly complicated and not robust enough. I'm totally against most all this variable valve timing as it only causes problems. I will deal with a couple of Miles less fuel mileage and have me a nice simple metal timing chain and gears and never have to worry about it for the life of the vehicle. That's the way it should be. Honda VTX never had problems with their variable valve timing but it was only like a two-position thing low and high. Now we've got these wimpy little Rotator disc and parts that are springing around back and forth so they can have infinitely variable or 50 or 60 degrees total movement that's not holding up. Then they need to make the tensioner foot and the guides out of better quality material also. They simply don't care about it lasting 250,000 miles. I deal with this every single day and the outdoor power equipment industry. Instead of anyone stepping up to the plate and improving their quality or making a better product that will last longer and God forbid, charging more for it... They are all keeping the price exactly the same and instead of raising prices when production costs go up and materials go up, they are skimping on quality. They do not want you to keep your lawn mower for 15 or 20 years. They are going for an 8-year replacement. I had two mowers picked up last week that we're both 1999 models. And this is not that uncommon. Most of the machines I see are in the 2001 to 2005 range and then with the other part being up to 2008. I actually really get machines in that are newer than 2013 because people really just don't service them and they wait until there's a problem until they bring them in. So it takes 4 to 5 years usually for something to break and then they have to bring it in.
I do get a good number of them in that are simple no starts because of the fuel quality but I get an equal amount of new ones vs. Ohlins so I don't count those. That's not really a repair or anything failed. This is why the manufacturer will not warranty and if you're related issues because even though I hate the manufacture and they are a bunch of weasels, it is not their fault. The gas is junk and causes them to self clog.

Type much? holy cow...

 

[TobyU]

Type much? holy cow...

Yep...well not really. That was all on phone speech to text..but I do just as bad when I type them out...I'm just a long-winded SOB.

 

[TobyU]

I just went back and read it...THAT was SHORT for me! I rant for days sometimes. I regularly talk about whipping out my soapbox in public..the bank etc.

Some get a kick out of me...most tolerate me, barely. Some stay away.

They can ***** all they want but what I am saying is the truth, my experienced opinion, or what I know works.

 

[Flexpedition]

Link below is a 2015 Expedition, 3.5 EcoBoost, sold after just 350,000 miles.

https://en.bidfax.info/ford/expedit...l-2015-white-35l-6-vin-1fmjk1gt0fef29234.html

Its hard to read the doors, but its a former Rail Crew Express truck. As the name implies, they shuttle locomotive train crews around and evidently those guys are rough on interiors. Sold for $1900, conspicuity tape included.




Link below is the same truck after a long hot soapy bath in the automotive fountain of youth. She is now cleaner and meaner, showing just 40K miles and a reasonable asking price of $9995. I guess they atleast disclose 'not actual miles' at the end of the ad.

https://italauto.v12soft.com/inventory/view/11677024/2015-Ford-Expedition-EL-XL-Fleet-4x4-4dr-SUV/

 

[TobyU]

Link below is a 2015 Expedition, 3.5 EcoBoost, sold after just 350,000 miles.

https://en.bidfax.info/ford/expedit...l-2015-white-35l-6-vin-1fmjk1gt0fef29234.html

Its hard to read the doors, but its a former Rail Crew Express truck. As the name implies, they shuttle locomotive train crews around and evidently those guys are rough on interiors. Sold for $1900, conspicuity tape included.




Link below is the same truck after a long hot soapy bath in the automotive fountain of youth. She is now cleaner and meaner, showing just 40K miles and a reasonable asking price of $9995. I guess they atleast disclose 'not actual miles' at the end of the ad.

https://italauto.v12soft.com/inventory/view/11677024/2015-Ford-Expedition-EL-XL-Fleet-4x4-4dr-SUV/

Maybe I should save this post and screenshot these links for the next time somebody gets upset when I criticize and condemn car dealers.
People get irritated with me because I'm a broken record always slamming car dealers, repair garages and especially transmission shops. Well, I think I'll just stick with my opinions and keep on slamming.

 

[barongan]

I don't have personal experience with them