You still want to go to those express lube places?

[keiferEXP]

Just picked up a 04 Expedition cheap from a private owner. Took it home and did a oil change. And saw Valvoline sticker on corner of windshield. Then to my surprise cannot fit my regular wrench on filter and finally used a lawnmower wrench and took it out. It's a small VO-88 oil filter and looked up it's not cross reference with any Motorcraft. But it's for Volvo and others. I put in a Motorcraft 820S and hope it won't leak. How can Valvoline Express can do this to customers vehicles? Tried to attached image of both filters, like day and night. Motorcraft way bigger.

 

[Yupster Dog]

All those oil change places Jiffy, Express lube, ect. do the same thing.
Tell you all about the great oil (which they have a deal with and get cheap) but forget to mention that they are using their smaller crappy filter.
There are a lot of people out there that trust them and have no clue. Most people I tell don't believe me until they go look. even then they are still defending them. Oh no not the guys at the one I go to.

 

[Peter Brown]

I'll do my own from now on. Not only did they refuse my request to put 10w30 in my 04 expy. Saying I would ruin motor.
They were trying to upsell me like I just walked off of the short bus. It's not bad to change out. Get some ramps and you're good.

 

[CaptOchs]

Valvoline IOC overfilled my Suburban by 2 quarts! I had oil come out through the exhaust and spray on my camper. The truck lost power after that so there was engine damage. I ended up getting rid of it months later. Their offer for ruining my truck? Three instant oil change coupons!

 

[RichardH]

I should do it myself but trust a local shop called NTB. They seem to do the job correct.

 

[Expedition Dave]

I should do it myself but trust a local shop called NTB. They seem to do the job correct.

Still can't read what you wrote. Avatar too distracting...

The BEST way to deal with your "Lube & Loot" is to buy your oil and filter, make them delete the cost for parts on their end, and watch them like you would your daughter's date on prom night...

 

[ManUpOrShutUp]

I've had a lot of bad experiences at quick lube places, but continued to use them for many years simply because the oil changes cost me less than the supplies needed to do it myself. When oil change prices started creeping up I started doing my own, but still had my wife take her car since it was a lot more work to do it on her car (put it on ramps, remove the shield, etc.). Then she had a local Meineke drain half her brake fluid in order to make her brakes feel spongy so they could rope her into a brake job. (She called me, I told her to decline and drive home carefully. I discovered the drained fluid quickly as I had just topped it off a week prior and there were no leaks.) Ever since then, I do them on both vehicles.

 

[RichardH]

Still can't read what you wrote. Avatar too distracting...

The BEST way to deal with your "Lube & Loot" is to buy your oil and filter, make them delete the cost for parts on their end, and watch them like you would your daughter's date on prom night...

Lol ,

I pay about $65 for parts/labor. That's for synthetic blend. Not too bad. Small bonus is the Keurig coffee in the 'observation' room (looking at the shop floor). I do watch them like a hawk though...can pretty much see everything they are doing.

 

[RichardH]

Lol ,

I pay about $65 for parts/labor. That's for synthetic blend. Not too bad. Small bonus is the Keurig coffee in the 'observation' room (looking at the shop floor). I do watch them like a hawk though...can pretty much see everything they are doing.

Years ago (about 20) Jiffy had a special for $9.99 oil change. Would take the three cars - one at a time - about every 3 weeks due to the miles driven...

 

[ManUpOrShutUp]

Lol ,

I pay about $65 for parts/labor. That's for synthetic blend. Not too bad. Small bonus is the Keurig coffee in the 'observation' room (looking at the shop floor). I do watch them like a hawk though...can pretty much see everything they are doing.

I just paid $30 for 12 qts of full syn Valvoline from Amazon and pay $3.50-4 for my MC filters. That's about $40 I would pay for 1/2 hour of grunt labor (or about $45 for the wife's Honda as it uses far less oil). Being as cheap as I am, that seems pricey. My bigger concern though is always the other shady s**t many of these places do (e.g. draining fluids, putting on the wrong filter, refilling with used oil, breaking things intentionally or accidentally, etc.).