Thinking about a 2012 limited (not EL)

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Hmmm... Seem to have lost all my friends with that one ;)

Still on the fence, looking at the regular length expy limited's now too. That said, I thought they all (Limited's) had max towing capacity although it seems some have the 3.23 or 3.43 vs. the 3.73?

This is getting exhausting.

According to Ford, the axle ratio makes no difference in the max towing capacity.
So a regular length Expy with 3:31's will tow the same as one with 3:73's.
Also, the "max" tow capacity is slightly higher with a regular versus an EL. ( 9200 to 8900 ) due to the additional weight of the EL.


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According to Ford, the axle ratio makes no difference in the max towing capacity.
So a regular length Expy with 3:31's will tow the same as one with 3:73's.
Also, the "max" tow capacity is slightly higher with a regular versus an EL. ( 9200 to 8900 ) due to the additional weight of the EL.


Matt

Really? Is that on the 3rd Gens? When shopping for the last one (05 EB) it seemed that was one of my fails (of many), the 3.31 vs. 3.73. Has something changed between Gen 1 and Gen 2?

Actually finding that with the Chv/GM itineration's too. The 6 speed automatic seems to lesson the need for the lower gear ratio.
 
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According to Ford, the axle ratio makes no difference in the max towing capacity.
So a regular length Expy with 3:31's will tow the same as one with 3:73's.
Also, the "max" tow capacity is slightly higher with a regular versus an EL. ( 9200 to 8900 ) due to the additional weight of the EL.


Matt

Really? Is that on the 3rd Gens? When shopping for the last one (05 EB) it seemed that was one of my fails (of many), the 3.31 vs. 3.73. Has something changed between Gen 1 and Gen 2?

Actually finding that with the Chv/GM itineration's too. The 6 speed automatic seems to lesson the need for the lower gear ratio.

Can someone confirm the above two quotes please. I'm looking to buy this one (below, it's a 2011) and need to be sure it'll tow up to the max 9,200. I'm not going that high, but like the cushion.
Anything it's missing that I should care about? Going to test drive today. Here's a link to it:
http://www.kijiji.ca/v-view-image.html?adId=568600657&image=0&enableSearchNavigationFlag=true


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if you post the VIN up, one of us can check. My 2011 is 2wd, reg, 3.31 gears and has the heavy duty tow. There is supposedly a place on the hitch where you can look also, but the door sticker gives no indication (I just checked mine) and then re-ran the VIN to make sure.

Because your list has the Heavy duty trans cooler, it should have heavy tow (9200lbs). But I can verify with the VIN. You used to be abkle to just check and see if it has the round trailer connector (cant remember the name right now) and that meant it had heavy tow. Not sure if that is still the case.

Or you can just put the VIN in here Untitled Page and it will tell you.
 
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if you post the vin up, one of us can check. My 2011 is 2wd, reg, 3.31 gears and has the heavy duty tow. There is supposedly a place on the hitch where you can look also, but the door sticker gives no indication (i just checked mine) and then re-ran the vin to make sure.

Because your list has the heavy duty trans cooler, it should have heavy tow (9200lbs). But i can verify with the vin. You used to be abkle to just check and see if it has the round trailer connector (cant remember the name right now) and that meant it had heavy tow. Not sure if that is still the case.

Or you can just put the vin in here untitled page and it will tell you.
1fmju1g56bef11214




Primary Features
Build Date: 18.10.2010
Vehicle Line: Expedition (2003-)
Body Style: 4 Door Wagon
Version: Ford Series
Engine: 5.4L 3V V8
Transmission: 6 Speed Automatic Trans (6R80)
Drive: LHD 4WD (PTD)
Axle Ratio: 3.31
Emission: With 49 State/Non Green State Req
Air Conditioning: HD Manual Air Conditioning
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Less Special Value Packages
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Feature Content Group 2
With Roll Stability Control
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With Electric Rear Quarter Window
With Privacy Glass
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With Full Floor Console
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With Carpet Floor Covering Level 1
Front Carpet/Rubber Floor Mats
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With Colour Keyed Wheel Lip M'lding
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With Black Exterior Mirror
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Less Rear Heated Seat
With Cloth 2nd Row Seat Material
Second Row 40-20-40 Seats
With 3rd Row Bench Seat
With Driver 6 Way Pwr.Seat Adjuster
Less Adjustable Passenger Seat
Less Programmable Driver Seat
With 3rd Row Cloth Seat Material
With Heavy Duty Trailer Towing
With Front Towing Hook
With Trailer Sway Control (TSC)
With Chrome Exterior Door Handle
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Oxford White
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no heavy tow on this one - looks like it is Canadian ( I may be reading it wrong, but you can check the link)

here is the link for the window sticker http://fordlabels.webview.biz/webviewhybrid/windowsticker.aspx?vin=1fmju1g56bef11214

sorry for the delay - it did not email me there was an update on this thread. I will check my settings.

Don't be sorry - it was pretty quick.
If I run the vin through this:
FordEtis home page

It shows these options (as I posted above)

With Heavy Duty Trailer Towing
With Front Towing Hook
With Trailer Sway Control (TSC)
3.31
Heavy Duty Aux Trans Oil Cooler
With Super Engine Cooling System


What else would I need?
 

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camper/trailer is what you need for the summer time. good day
 
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Wow - did a complete about face and bought an F150 FX4, 2009 with 40,000 miles.

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Axle Ratio: 3.73
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