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    difference between 15 thru 17 expedition and previous rentals

    Having just spent literally months going through this (and having a brother who buys cars like he's a car dealer) I can say even though they are "no dicker" CarMax prices are inflated so don't use those to gauge true market value. The different "book" sources like NADA and Kelly Blue Book (KBB)...
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    4WD Change for 2017?

    I noticed in the sales brochures that 2017 EL 4WD trucks come with a limited-slip rear axle. As far as I know, that was not available on older models. According to the Ford sales brochures, it was not available on any Expedition in 2015 or 2016. That is why I was narrowing my search to just 2017...
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    difference between 15 thru 17 expedition and previous rentals

    That's a good question! I sure hope this option is an improvement and not an attempt to cut corners. I may be about to pull the trigger on a 2017 so I'd sure like to know! I'll start a new thread with this question so maybe we can get some more eyes on it. . .
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    Is there a difference in the ride quality between 2014 and 2015?

    This is a 2017 Platinum without CCD (it comes with 2015 20-inch wheels). This vehicle is almost certain to have load-leveling suspension:
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    Is there a difference in the ride quality between 2014 and 2015?

    Yes it's true that CCD can be hard to find. It was optional and rather rare in 2015 and 2016. It became standard for 2017 but only on Platinum trucks. Even then, many lease and fleet 2017 Platinum vehicles don't have it. They ordered their trucks instead with load-leveling rear suspension in...
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    New (to me) 17 Plat EL

    Our new 18 has that issue on the rear door. Gonna have it looked at. Not sure if this helps, but I had a (very) small water leak in my driver's door area. My door was replaced years ago when I hit a deer. They must have messed with the inner seal as part of that process. The door openings...
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    difference between 15 thru 17 expedition and previous rentals

    I just posted a rather detailed description about ride differences in this thread: Is there a difference in the ride quality between 2014 and 2015? Another difference I just discovered about 2015-17 models is that 2017 EL 4WD trucks come with a limited-slip rear axle. As far as I know, that...
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    Is there a difference in the ride quality between 2014 and 2015?

    I've been truck shopping for the last 12 months so I've looked at quite a few. I almost bought a 2014 with just under 30K miles but it got away from me. The ride quality was very good. I attributed this to the tires that were on the truck (Pirelli Scorpion STR 275/55R20) and the fact it had...
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    Navigator/Expedition Tail lamp swap

    Since you just posted this image in another thread, I was looking at the white "sockets" in the quarter panel recess where the Expy tail lamps snap into place. Notice there are extra holes in that area. It's a good bet those holes are used to secure the Navigator tail lamps. So, not only would...
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    Mice inside my 2015 Limited EL

    I'm guessing a rubber body plug has popped out somewhere. They can be found in the firewall and in the floor. Sadly, some of these are completely inaccessible. (I once found one had popped out under the windshield of our Grand Marquis when I pulled the dash to replace the blend door and heater...
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    Navigator/Expedition Tail lamp swap

    You didn't happen to remove your 2nd row middle seat, did you? That leaves a hole in the floor that will let mice gain entry into your truck. I learned this lesson the hard way. . .
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    Navigator/Expedition Tail lamp swap

    What he said. The Expedition and Navigator share the same rear quarter panel. This means the 2015-17 Navigator tail lamps should install in the Expedition openings. (I haven't studied pics of earlier models so I don't know about those.) BUT, with that said, the 2015-17 Navi tail lamp assemblies...
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    TOW package verification

    While Heavy Duty Trailer Tow is available as a standalone option on XLT, according to the Ford sales brochure it is standard on Limited, King Ranch, and Platinum for 2015-17. It is also included in Equipment Group 202A on XLT. So, if the XLT you are looking at has heated and cooled front seats...
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    Purchasing a used 2017 EL - Rentals

    Good to know about the F150 issues, but if I'm not mistaken a 2015+ F150 would be the equivalent of a 2018 Expedition. Don't the 2015-17 Expy models share their architecture with the 2014 F150?
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    Purchasing a used 2017 EL - Rentals

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    Purchasing a used 2017 EL - Rentals

    I spoke to a Ford tech recently and he was very helpful in addressing my concerns about the cost to maintain/repair the newer Ecoboost engines over the old Triton V8s. He told me he has never replaced an Ecoboost, and the only major service he recalled performing was replacing a turbo. Using a...
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    Purchasing a used 2017 EL - Rentals

    True, aftermarket head units are very often better than OEM. But, we have SYNC3 in our new '18 and I am really starting to like it. You can't get that degree of integration with the vehicle settings/systems with an aftermarket unit. To each his own. . . On this, we totally agree. Even in...
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    Purchasing a used 2017 EL - Rentals

    Funny, 3 out of 4 trucks on the market here are black. I'm actually looking for a white truck (another reason it's taking so long). I, too, think it looks better on a Limited because they nearly always have power running boards. While those are expensive options that are very likely to fail over...
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    Purchasing a used 2017 EL - Rentals

    I was trying to point out that a loaded XLT has most of the equipment that comes on a Limited. In fact, a lot more features can be had on a loaded '15-'17 XLT than in the past. Where I live I can't seem to find very many low-mileage Limited models and the few that are on the market are fetching...
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    Purchasing a used 2017 EL - Rentals

    Some of us like the amenities. On the F150 forums a lot of owners are discussing how to add options that didn't come on their trucks. Unfortunately, tighter electronics integration these days means it's much harder to add some options to the vehicle after the fact. It's often much easier to...
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    New (to me) 17 Plat EL

    On the 2nd Row center seat, mine gives me trouble as well. On the front of the seat, I press down and toward the rear with my knee while, at the same time, pulling the release lever. It works every time. If I don't press on the front of the seat with my knee, the release lever moves but doesn't...
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    Purchasing a used 2017 EL - Rentals

    I've been looking now for the last 12 months so I have a good bit of experience under my belt. (Prices here are extremely high and it's hard to get a good deal, hence I'm taking my time until I find the right truck at the right price.) My current truck was an ex-rental from CA. It's in really...
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    Powerfold Seat Question

    I get that. Yes, you can get the power seat movement to work by bypassing the Driver's Seat Module (DSM). What I meant is no one (that I know of) has successfully gotten the *memory* function to work in a truck that didn't already have it. Same goes for the heated & cooled seats. . . What we...
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    Powerfold Seat Question

    Programming is definitely involved if you try to retrofit memory seats into a vehicle that didn't have that option, or get heated&cooled seats to work when the truck didn't have those to begin with. In fact, I have yet to see even one successful retrofit so far -- and that includes among people...
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    Powerfold Seat Question

    I know this is an old thread but I was researching this same thing while looking to buy an XL that was missing the third row seats. First, the seat belts for the third row should be bolted to the "D" pillar ONLY if you have a "shorty" model. EL models should NOT be bolted there (I've actually...

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