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    New Snow Tires and Winter Wheels

    Glad they are working for you. It will be interesting to see how they work in a real storm. As someone noted, a true winter tire has thousands of micro grooves/sipes to pick up as much snow as it can to use as traction against snow on the road. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    Stupid Crappy Underbody Protection!

    So two different issues right? 1) “skid” plates are basically cereal boxes 2) “skid” plates collect snow I have never really thought about it/worried much about snow getting stuck in skid plates. Engine is hot and I park in the garage. That said, the cereal boxes need to go. Bad place to cut...
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    6 month review, 18 Navigator VS 18 Expedition.

    Agreed. It’s why I live with the quiet and haven’t gone aftermarket exhaust. Accentuating a turbo 6 doesn’t create an ideal sound IMO Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    6 month review, 18 Navigator VS 18 Expedition.

    I was in my Navi this am and had to almost painfully crane my neck backwards to even touch the headrest. Must just be how we all have the seats setup differently. The x7’s headrest seems really far forward to me by comparison. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    6 month review, 18 Navigator VS 18 Expedition.

    Reconfirmed dual transfer case/ 4H/L this am on the Navi Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    6 month review, 18 Navigator VS 18 Expedition.

    Wow. We are so not aligned lol. One of the things I hate about the Navi is how weak and quiet the exhaust is compared to the rumble and burble of denali and esky. I looked at the X7 before I landed on the nav and loved the exhaust.
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    6 month review, 18 Navigator VS 18 Expedition.

    Gotcha. I’m similar height/weight. I actually wish the top cushion came out further.
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    6 month review, 18 Navigator VS 18 Expedition.

    Good grief that looks bigger than my navis lol Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    6 month review, 18 Navigator VS 18 Expedition.

    I’m convinced my Navis noise canceling doesn’t work. I wish there was a way to turn it off and on to confirm. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    6 month review, 18 Navigator VS 18 Expedition.

    Headrests...dumb question as you guys seem to know your vehicles well but you are aware that the headrests not only go up and down but forward and back too right? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    6 month review, 18 Navigator VS 18 Expedition.

    So it appears adaptive suspension became standard in 2020. Wonder if they made some other suspension tweaks when they made that change. https://www.motortrend.com/cars/lincoln/navigator/2020/2020-lincoln-navigator-first-drive/ Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    6 month review, 18 Navigator VS 18 Expedition.

    So interesting to hear some people saying the Navi rides stiff. I came from a GMC and compared to that the Navi is like riding on a bag of mashed potatoes lol. Still wondering if the ‘20’s had some tweaks. 3 years in that would make sense.
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    6 month review, 18 Navigator VS 18 Expedition.

    Now THAT is funny lol. I just dislike hard plastic monotone part bin mediocrity. But to each their own! Curious, is the center console really smaller on the expy? Looks massive... https://images.app.goo.gl/t26mx6MahwgDACsv8
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    6 month review, 18 Navigator VS 18 Expedition.

    If you are looking in the Navi price range then the expy shouldn’t really be in the running IMO. That’s like choosing between a Tahoe and a escalade. I’d go GLS or Esky if the Navi doesn’t do it for you. The interior of the expy is just too FOMOCO parts bin for me. Whereas the navigator is...
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    6 month review, 18 Navigator VS 18 Expedition.

    I agree with that. The knob isn’t bad. One click clockwise and you’re in 4wd but they should have a “shortcut” button for it. Same with the heated steering wheel. Cannot believe there isn’t a physical button for it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    6 month review, 18 Navigator VS 18 Expedition.

    Not accurate. As I understand it: There are two rear wheel drive modes (2H): Normal - 2H - Rear wheel drive. Conserve - 2H - Real wheel drive. Shift points, suspension, etc., changed to give you better gas mileage. There are three all wheel drive modes (4A): Normal 4X4 - 4A - All wheel...
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    6 month review, 18 Navigator VS 18 Expedition.

    Wow, I’ve never experienced the highway play that you’re describing nor the transmission/shudder of road “noise” transmitted to the cabin or wheel. I tend to keep mine in conserve mode on the highway and that could be it. I have a 2020 though...wonder if they made some small tweaks/changes...
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    Folding Cargo Liners

    I have these as well. They are pretty grippy. In between a carpet and a slick plastic/rubber mat I’d say. They’re pretty great and look awesome. Can’t find the seller on amazon anymore but there are a bunch of places that sell similar items...
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    Useless “fog lights” on Navigator...options?

    Yeah the Navi are just a few leds in a row. It’s not something that can be swapped out unfortunately. The navigator (not sure about expy) has active lighting which does a great job at lower speeds really lights up the road and surroundings well. When you turn the wheel left it illuminates to...
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    Useless “fog lights” on Navigator...options?

    I like it but I have a front mounted license plate unfortunately. Thanks Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    Useless “fog lights” on Navigator...options?

    So the fog/driving lights on the navigator are absolutely useless. Turning them on/off produces absolutely no difference in short throw light. They are completely cosmetic in nature. I’m guessing there is no ability to change these out? What about behind the grill lights...anyone do something...
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    $1100 tail light

    AND there’s almost no chance they ARENT made in China/Mexico. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    2020 Expy Limited in-dash display??

    Same issue. It uses wifi so you can’t have your phone connected to in car wifi if you use it I don’t think.
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    Pissed over new aluminum wheels in winter

    BS. I’d take another swing at it. They aren’t OEM “spec” as no OEM would spec out their wheels not to be clear coated. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    2020 Expy Limited in-dash display??

    From ALL sources though? That’s the limitations. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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